[ale] I've decided again to learn programming again

[Ron Frazier]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the info.  I wasn't sure 1 computer could share it's screen 
and view others on another screen, but you may be right there.  We won't 
need Git at first, since we'll be typing examples from a textbook.  
Later if we start developing our own code, we'll probably implement it.  
I'll check out the Google+ thing.  I've heard about it, but am not 
familiar with it.

Sincerely,

Ron

On 10/21/2011 5:28 PM, Richard Bronosky wrote:
>
> I think you are over complicating the issue with the 2 computers. 
> Collaboration is very easy if you can agree on just a few things.
> 1. Use a Distributed Version Control System. I recommend git and 
> http://github.com
> 2. All collaboration will happen via SSH connections to a server or 
> the workstation of someone who knows how to do NAT forwarding on their 
> router.
> 3. Use command line text editors.
> 4. For audio, just use a Google+ Hangout. At my company we hire remote 
> full-time employees. I have interviewed dozens of developers using 
> several free and commercial technologies. Nothing is better.
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Ron Frazier 
> <atllinuxenthinfo at c3energy.com <mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at c3energy.com>> 
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I want to thank those who've replied to this thread previously.  I'll be
> > considering all those pieces of advice as my programming project
> > advances, and will probably post other messages here about them.  I'm
> > not quoting the whole thread here, because I want to ask some questions
> > about technology setup, so I and a couple of partners can begin learning
> > Java programming collaboratively.  Essentially, I and Scott Castaline
> > and possibly one other person, not part of this group, whom I shall call
> > Sam for now, wish to all participate in a learning experience to learn
> > to program in Java.  (If there is a Sam in the group, he's not related
> > to this discussion.)  At least at first, we'll be working through one of
> > the Deitel and Deitel textbooks.  These have the unique advantage of
> > having lots of case studies and exercises to look at.  We want to be
> > able to participate in the experience together in real time, by
> > collaborating over the internet.  I will be running Ubuntu 10.04, Scott
> > will probably be running Fedora 15, and Sam will probably be running
> > Ubuntu 11.04.
> >
> > I want to enable 2 features to enable collaboration.  1) Multiparty VOIP
> > voice conferencing, and 2) Multiparty screen sharing
> >
> > Here's how I want this to work.  Each person will have two computers to
> > use.  One machine will be their development machine, with the editor,
> > compiler, IDE, and other Java development related tools.  The second
> > computer will be their voip machine and viewer machine.
> >
> > For item 1), Multiparty VOIP voice conferencing, I want each of the
> > three people to be able to join a VOIP conference such that each one can
> > wear a computer headset and each one can talk and the other two can hear
> > him, just like a conference call.
> >
> > For item 2), Multiparty screen sharing, it gets a bit more complicated.
> >
> > Let's designate the computers for each person as follows:
> >
> > Dev-Ron
> > Viewer-Ron
> >
> > Dev-Scott
> > Viewer-Scott
> >
> > Dev-Sam
> > Viewer-Sam
> >
> > Each person will share their Dev screen with the other two people, in
> > view only mode.  Each person will view the other two people's Dev
> > screens in windows on his Viewer screen.
> >
> > So, the contents of the screens would be as follows:
> >
> > Dev-Ron - Ron's development environment
> > Viewer-Ron
> >      a window containing an image of Scott's Dev screen
> >      a window containing an image of Sam's Dev screen
> >
> > Dev-Scott - Scott's development environment
> > Viewer-Scott
> >      a window containing an image of Ron's Dev screen
> >      a window containing an image of Sam's Dev screen
> >
> > Dev-Sam - Sam's development environment
> > Viewer-Sam
> >      a window containing an image of Ron's Dev screen
> >      a window containing an image of Scott's Dev screen
> >
> > I hope that makes any sense whatsoever.  If it works, every participant
> > will be able to see whatever the other two are doing and every one will
> > be able to talk to every one.  Note that I don't need pictures of the
> > people, just the computer screens of their Dev systems.  Note also that
> > this is different from a situation where there is one presenter, since
> > every party is both a presenter and a viewer.
> >
> > This needs to be free open source software, and should not require any
> > fees to participate.
> >
> > I'm thinking Ventrillo might work for voice, if available for Linux.
> > I'm thinking that TeamViewer might work for the screen sharing.  I'm not
> > sure if either can do multiparty conferencing, and I'm sure that there
> > are other options.
> >
> > Leave it to me to try to grab a tiger by the tail, as I'm sure this will
> > be complicated.  I've done point to point remote control before, but
> > nothing like this.  Any advice on how to get this working would be
> > appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Sincerely confused,
> >
> > Ron
> >
>

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