[ale] Backups (What are you using?)

Jeff Lightner jlightner at water.com
Tue Jan 27 15:01:42 EST 2009


"industry standard"  - Not sure I buy that.   

 

It seems clear there are people using it but from my work in the
"industry" it is not the "standard". 

 

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Brandon Colbert
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:42 PM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] Backups (What are you using?)

 

Here is what our solution is going to be. I sold the idea now it is
implementation time. LOL

 

5. Enterprise Backup Solution - http://bacula.org/en/

This concept is an industry standard that is used in an enterprise
environment that has 20 or more servers.

Three hardware components are involved in this process: server, 12-bay
storage, 4 bay storage. The server will run an Open Source Enterprise
backup software that consists of a SQL database that keeps track of the
data. It emails and provides detail reports daily. The software uses the
storage pool concept like the commercial applications. The 12 bay RAID
storage will always been online and serve as the main online storage for
the backup solution. The 4 bay storage will not be in a RAID set (JBOD),
and it will be treated as tape(off-line). When the server makes the
off-site copy to that storage pool it writes it to one of the 4 drives.
Once all the drives are full they can be taken out (hot-swapping
online), and replaced with new ones. The hard disks will be taken to a
fire proof safe deposit box at a bank. The bank will provide higher
security, and will compensate [Company Name] if the data is stolen. The
other servers will run a backup client that will communicate to the
server when it needs a restore or backup. Backup schedules can be set
for the all clients. 

 

 

Cost Estimate: 

OFF-LINE Storage

SC-ESATA-PCIE2 image 

Silicon Image 2-Port eSATA RAID Controller SC-ESATA-PCIE2 44.00 

1U Rackmount SATA Port Multiplier Enclosure w/4 trays SC-SAT4PM1U 469.00


4TB = 540.00 

Total = 1053.00 

 

Hard Disk: 135.00 1TB 

 

ON-LINE Storage 

12-bay 2U SAS/SATA Rackmount JBOD w/Redundant 500W PSU SC-SAT122URD with
expander 1800.00 

Areca ARC-1680ix-8 SAS RAID Controller SC-ARC1680ix-8 739.00 

1m External MiniSAS Cable SFF-8088 to SFF-8088 SAS-8888-1M 47.00 

6TB = 820.00 

Total = 3406.00 

 

Grand Total = 4459.00

 

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Brandon Colbert
<colbert.brandon at gmail.com> wrote:

Here is what our solution is going to be. I sold the idea now it is
implementation time. LOL

 

5. Enterprise Backup Solution - http://bacula.org/en/

This concept is an industry standard that is used in an enterprise
environment that has 20 or more servers.

Three hardware components are involved in this process: server, 12-bay
storage, 4 bay storage. The server will run an Open Source Enterprise
backup software that consists of a SQL database that keeps track of the
data. It emails and provides detail reports daily. The software uses the
storage pool concept like the commercial applications. The 12 bay RAID
storage will always been online and serve as the main online storage for
the backup solution. The 4 bay storage will not be in a RAID set (JBOD),
and it will be treated as tape(off-line). When the server makes the
off-site copy to that storage pool it writes it to one of the 4 drives.
Once all the drives are full they can be taken out (hot-swapping
online), and replaced with new ones. The hard disks will be taken to a
fire proof safe deposit box at a bank. The bank will provide higher
security, and will compensate [Company Name] if the data is stolen. The
other servers will run a backup client that will communicate to the
server when it needs a restore or backup. Backup schedules can be set
for the all clients. 

 

 

Cost Estimate: 

OFF-LINE Storage

SC-ESATA-PCIE2 image 

Silicon Image 2-Port eSATA RAID Controller SC-ESATA-PCIE2 44.00 

1U Rackmount SATA Port Multiplier Enclosure w/4 trays SC-SAT4PM1U 469.00


4TB = 540.00 

Total = 1053.00 

 

Hard Disk: 135.00 1TB 

 

ON-LINE Storage 

12-bay 2U SAS/SATA Rackmount JBOD w/Redundant 500W PSU SC-SAT122URD with
expander 1800.00 

Areca ARC-1680ix-8 SAS RAID Controller SC-ARC1680ix-8 739.00 

1m External MiniSAS Cable SFF-8088 to SFF-8088 SAS-8888-1M 47.00 

6TB = 820.00 

Total = 3406.00 

 

Grand Total = 4459.00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm surprised no one has added the "I don't do backups 'cause all the
important stuff is in-my-head/hardcopy".

NASA has a truly horrid backup problem. They have so much data that
the media is beginning to fail before they can get back around to
transfer it to another format. There is stuff from the early Mercury
and Gemini days that is not searchable as it is on paper (that is
rotting away - pre acid-free days) and much of the moon landing data
that is electronic is on tape media with no remaining drives that
function.

Imagine needing to backup dozens of TB that is readable at only 2-3Kb/s!

2009/1/26 Brandon Colbert <colbert.brandon at gmail.com>:

> All,
>
> Today I proposed a new backup solution using Bacula. Does anyone have
Bacula
> deployed in their environment? I just wanted to see what everyone else
is
> using.
>
>

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