[ale] RH + Updates

Matthew Brown matthew.brown at cordata.com
Mon Aug 25 08:44:04 EDT 2003




Right.  I agree with your point on SP's and RHN.  The up2date doesn't work so well for me, though, because of the latency in RH getting newer packages on RHN.


On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 08:32, Christopher Fowler wrote:

Its not that rpm is difficult.  up2date will allow you to install
RPMS not installed and grab their dependencies.  Lets say I did
a fresh install of RH and forgot to install kde.  We know there
will be dependency hell.  Just issue the command 'up2date kde' and it
will grab and install all needed packages.  Do do this, you must
be on the RH network.

My comment was that ppl complain about having to install SPs in MS
and I think the fact that there is a new updated package every other
day from RH is just as bad.  Maybe roll them up into service packs too
and release them at once a month.  That would leave many potential buffer
exploits open since that what seems to be the cause of why there are so
many updated packages.

Chris

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:25:55AM -0400, Matthew Brown wrote:
> 
>    I'm with you.  I wonder, is Debian any better?
>    Also,  I  notice that the RPM package management system leaves some to
>    be  desired.  Either I am ignorant in it's advanced use, or it is just
>    a  little  too cumbersome.  For example, in trying to get gDesklets to
>    work  --  still unsuccessfully -- I needed to upgrade Python, but that
>    broke   python2-gnome2-ui  or  somesuch.   RPM  complained  about  the
>    upgrade,  but I would love to have just said, "upgrade yourself to the
>    latest,  and  include  any  dependencies" -- or at least list them and
>    allow me to grab them at will.
>    I  only worked with apt-get shortly working on another project, but it
>    seemed  REALLY  easy.  Myabe a little too easy, I suppose.  All I said
>    was  apt-get this-1.0.3-14, and it upgraded this, that, and the other,
>    all without incident.
>    I'm  not  after  a  pm  war, but would love to hear the pros and cons.
>    Shoot, even emerge was easier than rpm.
>    On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 07:51, Christopher Fowler wrote:
> 
> I know people complain about MS having huge service packas and having
> too many of them.  I have to say that I can not keep up with the
> amount of patches RedHat releases.  It seems like every day the little
> blue icon goes red.  Thank GID I'm only doing updates on 2 ocmputers.
> 
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