[ale] Linuxgruven

[Thompson Freeman]

Interesting (??) side note: I received my Linux Journal today, and oposit
p54 is a full page ad for Linuxgruven. Claims "Gloval Linux Support /n
Anywhere. Anytime."

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Derek Graham wrote:

> Perry -
> I also must agree, I too was offered the same deal, but the cost of the class 
> was different.   I never heard of a nationwide scam, but ever since i went 
> through the class. I honestly feel it is a scam.  They automatically change 
> the subject when you ask them about clients.  The Chicago office has only 6 
> people working there.   And the test is given over a secure internet site i 
> guess from st louis
> 
> 
>  -Derek
> On Wednesday 24 January 2001 21:15, Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> > Perry -
> >
> > FWIW coming from me, any scheme that involves having you pay money up front
> > for "training" is something you should run the other way from.  Make your
> > own determination, but this doesn't sound good to me.   The presence of
> > three pending BBB complaints should be a BIG red flag.  It would be good if
> > the STL BBB would let you see the complaints so that you can gauge whether
> > the situation is similar enough to yours that you can expect a similar
> > outcome.
> >
> > - Jeff
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Perry [mailto:perryw at bellsouth.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:55 PM
> > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > Subject: [ale] Linuxgruven
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi there, I was surfing through the archives and found some
> > > posts from back
> > > in October about Linuxgruven and how I should be weary of
> > > them.  I was
> > > curious as to what others had to say after an interview with
> > > them yesterday.
> > >
> > > I was told that for their "Network Engineer" position that I
> > > need to be a
> > > certified LCA, http://www.linuxcertification.com, and that
> > > they would offer
> > > me the training for $3150 as well as a voucher for the 4
> > > tests.  They told
> > > me that I could either self study or take the class through
> > > someone else to
> > > become certified, taking their class is not necessary to
> > > become employed
> > > (if I was certified, he would have offered me a job
> > > yesterday, or so he
> > > said).  Since I'm not certified and am looking to break into the IT
> > > industry, I figured that this would be a good opportunity.
> > > But, common
> > > sense has taken over and this whole setup sounds sketchy.
> > >
> > > Sitting there in the Lenox Towers waiting for the the
> > > interviewer, I heard
> > > the receptionist answer the phone for at least 2 other
> > > companies.  No big
> > > deal, small company shares HR office space with other
> > > companies.  The test
> > > to get invited to the class was amazing easy, about zero
> > > questions on it
> > > that dealt directly with linux, more about general hardware.
> > >
> > > Linuxgruven has an article on their webpage that is from the
> > > St. Louis
> > > newspaper, I checked up on that and it was indeed published.
> > > Seems that
> > > they have at least 1 big client, and I was told they signed
> > > on with Turbo
> > > Linux.  I called the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce and they
> > > didn't have
> > > anything on the company.  Called the Atlanta BBB and no
> > > complaints have
> > > been filed.  Call the St. Louis BBB and they have no closed
> > > complaints, but
> > > 3 pending.  The guy I spoke to has heard of the company and
> > > is trying to
> > > track down more information about them, but they have not
> > > repsonded to a
> > > letter he sent them.
> > >
> > > linuxcertification.com recommends 128 hours of classroom
> > > contact for the
> > > certification, Linuxgruven gives 80.  My pesimistic outlook
> > > tells me that
> > > they are hoping people may fail the tests and they'll be up the 3
> > > large.  Pass the tests, and according to a contract they sign
> > > before the
> > > class begins, and you have a job for $45,000 along w/ 401K, health,
> > > etc.  Enticing to say the least.
> > >
> > > Has anyone had any further experience with the company?  Is
> > > their class any
> > > good?  Anyone in Atlanta offering the LCA class?  Any advice?
> > >  I'm about to
> > > call back to see if I am 'invited' to the class and I'm going
> > > to try and
> > > push some more info out of the guy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -- perry
> > >
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