[ale] Re: Back to Windows??not with XP!

[Rod Young]

I have to add that in light of the various issues coming up with windows
XP, Linux is looking better all the time. I could have chose Caldera or
Corel which seem to be easy installs. But for my old 486 laptop I went
with debian.And I have problems. Right now I am working on the backpack
cd. But that is why I chose this path, to learn. But you and others are
correct. We do need an turn key disto. I like the idea that someone
suggested. Just as NT has a server version and a client version, so
should linux.

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On 02/18/2001, 3:04:46 PM, "A. Demarteau (linux rules!)"
<linux at disnet.demon.nl> wrote regarding Re: Back to Windows??:


> On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
> > This afternoon I bought a box with Suse Linux 7 and a set of books.
> > It took me 2 hours, but now X Windows is running properly. But my printer
is
> > not supported, and I have not yet configured my ISDN modem.
> That's often the problem with first having the hardware and then deciding
> to install linux on it.
> For you printer have a look at http://www.linuxprointing.org (if I'm
> correct), it has a complate listing of what's supported what's
> half-supported and what's not.

> FOr your isdn-stuff, see the Documentation/sidn/ dir in any
kernel-sources
> (there probably is a isdn-howto or more info on
> http://metlab.unc.edu/LDP/)

> > I'm feeling 20 years in the past, when configuring all peripheral
hardware
> > was a specialist's job...
> > Or have I become dull by Microsoft's Plug'n Play.....
> I'm sorry I ahve to say yes to the latter point.
> I have to agree with both former repliers to this message, linux ain't
> easy but at least you have the freedom of choosing what and what not to
> do.
> And if it helps any, you've not choosen greatly by trying your first
> install on a laptop. Laptops are a big pain in the ass to install
corectly
> becaue of all the specialized hardware these things hold.



> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: A. Demarteau (linux rules!) [mailto:linux at disnet.demon.nl]
> > Verzonden: zaterdag 17 februari 2001 10:59
> > Aan: Jan van Veldhuizen
> > CC: 'Debian-Laptop (E-mail)
> > Onderwerp: RE: hisax parameters needed!
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
> >
> > > I already checked this textfile, but my modem is not there..... :-((
> > Well, as hard as it may seem, if it's not in there there's probably no
> > support for it.
> > Unless you're running a 2.2x kernel and 2.4.x has the support you need or
> > it's 100% compatible to another brand of isdn-modem.
> > What you can do is the following:
> > compile isdn-support as modules, compile hisax as module and include all
> > possible drivers for it, load the module wiht differnet cardtypes, check
> > dmesg-commandoutput if initialization was correct (if needed).
> > If it's a pcmcia-card, you have to check pcmcia-cs docs for more details
> > cause for those cards (at least in 2.2.x kernels) you need support
> > there. 2.4.x has that support in the kernel itself.
> > Also be sure it's a hisax-compatible driver at the first place and se if
> > there maybe another dirver in the kernel which will do the trick.
> > Ultimately, contact the hardware-vendor to see if they know if it's
> > supported.
> > success!
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: A. Demarteau (linux rules!) [mailto:linux at disnet.demon.nl]
> > > Verzonden: vrijdag 16 februari 2001 20:46
> > > Aan: Jan van Veldhuizen
> > > CC: 'Debian-Laptop (E-mail)
> > > Onderwerp: Re: hisax parameters needed!
> > >
> > >
> > > have a look in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/README.hisax (provided you
> > > have the kernel-sources somewhere ofcorurse).
> > > All supported cards are right in here with there specific paramters (if
> > > any are needed)
> > > Be wanred though, form my experience isdn is a big pain in the ass to
> > > setup and maintain, be wanred for stainge things like connection getting
> > > asseblished and dropped again with no immediately apperent reasons.
> > > Then again, once it works, it does fine.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes! My analog modem works! I succesfully configured the pppconfig.
> > > > I could not configure the ISDN-part of the card.
> > > > Does anyone know the hisax-parameters of this card?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: Drew Parsons [mailto:dparsons at emerall.com]
> > > > Verzonden: donderdag 15 februari 2001 14:46
> > > > Aan: 'Debian-Laptop (E-mail)
> > > > Onderwerp: Re: pcmcia card activation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 02:09:37PM +0100, Jan van Veldhuizen wrote:
> > > > > I am really a stupid newbie!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I've read that my xircom card is supported by pcmcia-cs, whatever
> > > that
> > > > > may be.
> > > > > But my installation notes from Debian do not tell me exactly what to
> > do.
> > > > > Perhaps it does, but I can't find it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which file must I edit, or what is the name of the configuration tool
> > > that
> > > > I
> > > > > can use to tell Linux which card I have, what the IP-number should be,
> > > > > etc....
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you have both pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules installed, with the latter
> > > > compiled for the kernel you're using, your computer should locate your
> > > card
> > > > as soon as it's inserted, with no extra configuration required.  You
> > > should
> > > > hear a high beep as soon as it goes in, and you can check in
> > > /var/log/syslog
> > > > that your computer identified the card properly (the xirc2ps driver will
> > > > probably be used for it).  You'll see something like:
> > > >
> > > > Feb 15 23:08:17 localhost cardmgr[163]: socket 0: Xircom CEM56
> > > > Ethernet/Modem
> > > > Feb 15 23:08:17 localhost cardmgr[163]: executing: 'modprobe xirc2ps_cs'
> >
> > > > Feb 15 23:08:17 localhost anacron[174]: Anacron 2.3 started on
> > 2001-02-15
> > > > Feb 15 23:08:17 localhost kernel: xirc2ps_cs.c 1.31 1998/12/09 19:32:55
> > > > (dd9jn+k
> > > > Feb 15 23:08:17 localhost cardmgr[163]: executing: 'modprobe serial_cs'
> > > >
> > > > Then, to use the card, you put the settings into
> > /etc/pcmcia/network.opts.
> > > > The sample settings already there should be simple enough to follow,
> > > > hopefully.  You'll want to pop the card out and reinsert, to make any
> > new
> > > > network settings operative.
> > > >
> > > > Drew
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > PGP public key available at http://dparsons.webjump.com/drewskey.txt
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> > > >
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