[ale] Android Studio for Centos 6.7?

Thu Sep 7 14:09:42 EDT 2017

Requirements:

Linux

 * GNOME or KDE desktop
   Tested on Ubuntu® 14.04 LTS, Trusty Tahr (64-bitdistribution capable ofrunning 32-bit applications)

 * 64-bit distribution capable of running 32-bit applications

 * GNU C Library (glibc) 2.19 or later

 * 3 GB RAM minimum, 8 GB RAM recommended; plus 1 GB for the Android
   Emulator
   

 * 2 GB of available disk space minimum,4 GB Recommended
   (500 MB for IDE + 1.5 GB for
   Android SDK and emulator
   system image)

 * 1280 x 800 minimum screen resolution

 * For accelerated emulator: Intel® processor with support for Intel®
   VT-x, 
   Intel® EM64T (Intel® 64), and Execute Disable (XD) Bit functionality,
   or
   AMD processor with support for AMD Virtualization™ (AMD-V™)


On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 13:57 -0400, Neal Rhodes wrote:
> 
> Well, I don't completely agree or disagree. 
> 
> 
> 
> Note that I do have on my shelf Bell Labratories Unix Programmer's
> Manual, Circa 1979.   I used to read cover-to-cover every few
> months.   I do respect linux and its parents. 
> 
> 
> 
> In this situation: 
> 
> >     - Installation of Java JDK and Android Studio took 10 minutes
> > of my time, following a youtube video, on an 4GB Quad-core Windows
> > 10 notebook.  (which, by the way, runs just fine on everything
> > else. )   Studio fired up immediately, generated a Hello World
> > application, and then obviously ground to a halt trying to run the
> > emulator in 4GB.      That Acer notebook requires surgery and about
> > $80 to rip out the 4GB and replace with 8GB. 
> > 
> >     - Installation of Java JDK and Android Studio took 2 hours of
> > my time, attempted debug of all the Java errors and inconsistencies
> > in libraries, and another 4 hours of attempted debug of running
> > it.   It never got through the Gradle execution to build the
> > app.    I am now stuck with a Centos 6.7 box which will take
> > another undetermined amount of work to rebuild as Centos 7.x. 
> > (Which I really cannot do, as my wife is doing billable work on
> > that same box now. )  And then who knows how many more hours of
> > debug will be needed running Studio on Centos 7.x? 
> > 
> >     
> > 
> 
> Note that the goal here is to learn Android Studio and build a simple
> sheet music playing app.   I don't CARE what platform Studio is
> running on.  There are no extra points for running it on Linux. 
> 
> 
> 
> After a bit of pondering, what I'm thinking of doing is: 
> 
> A) revise my purchase of a refurb to make sure I've got room for 32GB
> RAM, and 2 drive bays, and maybe spend a little more for that. 
> 
> B) go ahead and use Win10 as is for Studio and learn it without extra
> drama.
> 
> C) once learned, virtualize the Win10 install with whatever I used a
> couple years ago to virtualize an existing windows install.   I'd
> have to remember what I bought, but it did a nice job of building a
> VirtualBox VM, which we then stuffed on a USB stick, and transferred
> to Centos. 
> 
> D) Then cram in more RAM, buy two new SATA drives, and install Centos
> <whatever-is-latest> with software-raid.
> 
> E) Load Virtual Box, the Win10 VM, 
> 
> F) Attempt JDK and Studio install on native Centos, but bail and use
> the VM if it gives me any crap. 
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, I'm sure there are purists that are horrified that someone would
> rationally chose a non-linux platform.   Sorry, I'm a realist.    As
> Clint often said, "A man HAS to know their own limitations".    Too
> often if you get slightly off the beaten path with Linux you end up
> off in the tall weeds with no way back to the highway. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 12:26 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:
> 
> >     A) that box will run linux just fine
> > 
> >     
> > 
> >     B) Win10 on a machine of that capability is just shy of
> > molasses ( in August, but molasses).
> > 
> >     
> > 
> >     On September 7, 2017 11:45:02 AM EDT, Neal Rhodes <neal at mnopltd
> > .com> wrote:
> > 
> >     
> > >         Thanks to all for the replies.   That does sound like
> > > less grief.   However, I noted to my regret that although we have
> > > a couple of Win8 VMs we could use, the HP Pavilion running Centos
> > > maxes out at 8GB RAM.  Cannot add anymore. 
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Much as I prefer Linux, looks like I can buy a HP 6305
> > > Pro Desktop PC - AMD Athlon A4-5300B 3.4GHz 8gb 250gb DVD Windows
> > > 10 Professional (Certified Refurbished) $122. 
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 16:34 -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote: 
> > >         
> > > > +1 for using VMs.
> > > > 
> > > > On 09/06/2017 03:55 PM, Michael Potter wrote:
> > > > > I do my mobile development in VMs for precisely this
> > > > reason.  The build tools
> > > > > change too quickly and likely to break other things on my
> > > > machine.  Operating
> > > > > system updates also break the build tools.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I keep multiple VMs and then install all new tools on a new
> > > > VM.  Then migrate
> > > > > each app to the new VM as work needs to be done on it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then I can get a new host machine and simply copy the VMs to
> > > > the new host and
> > > > > all certificates and build environments remain unchanged.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Once all apps are migrated to the new VM I delete the older
> > > > VM.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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> > > 
> > >     
> >     
> > 
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