[ale] List issue

[Lightner, Jeffrey]

Given that AT&T uses Yahoo for its email customers I'd think such an attitude would block many.

There is one list I joined that wouldn't accept email because my company includes a privacy notice on every outbound email.   I advised the folks on that list that such notices do not have force of law and many organizations do this so by having such a policy on their end they're limiting technical users that might help.   They didn't bother to respond and I don't bother with that list any longer.

One of the things that truly annoys me about lists like this is how many individuals think they can dictate how the rest of the world should act where it comes to lists.   The number of "don't bottom post", "don't top post", "don't inline post" and "don't trim" messages one sees should make it clear that not everyone agrees on what is "best" so there is no reason to heed any such messages.

Other than moderation of outrageous posts one really shouldn't expect much more from a list than to be able to received and respond to messages.  By outrageous I mean spam/phishing/name calling - I even accept emails by the misguided who say emacs is better than vim.  :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ale [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Steve Litt via Ale
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:31 PM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] List issue

On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 10:33:55 -0500
Ken Cochran via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> Hmm, I'm seeing "ale at ale.org" on all emails from the list & this is 
> with good old mail/mailx, in a terminal session on (I think) SuSE.  
> Previously I would see who the sender was.
> Wish that could return so I can again see who said what.

Invariably, the "solution" to this DMARC thing greatly inconveniences most people, because a few like yahoo decided to use it to "solve"
*their* problems.

The solution I'd advise, especially for a technical list where people have tech smarts, some amount of money, and several email addresses, is to not accept email or memberships from anyone using yahoo mail or any of the other dmarc pushers. 

My finding, on most other lists, is that doing this wouldn't reduce the value of the lists, because most of those using dmarc pusher email addresses have very little real knowledge to contribute.

I recently did a "reply to sender" on a dmarc-respecting mailing list, and it sent my post, which was very embarrassing to be made public, to the whole list. Yeah, I could have prevented that by being more careful, but most of us think we're safe when we push "reply to sender."

I'd suggest regressing back to the old way.

SteveT

Steve Litt
November 2017 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust
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