[ale] Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation

Fri Jan 22 11:05:46 EST 2016

On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 10:55 -0500, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
> Coffee?  Sorry, but when I think of Puerto Rico, I don't think
> coffee. I think
> RUM!  Hummmm.  Good to mix?
Rum and latex wearing systemd protesters and/or supporters? Coffee
would provide some better ability to escape.
> 
> On 01/22/2016 08:32 AM, Jonathan Meek wrote:
> 
> > 
> > And now there's Puerto Rican coffee all over my phone. Thanks Jim for the
> > visual imagery there.
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016, 5:02 PM Jim Kinney <jkinney at jimkinney.us> wrote:
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > So attendees at the next systemd talk need to wear bondage garb.
> > > 
> > > Eww. The expected visual of that is unpleasant. IT attracts a crowd
> > > accustomed to body sculpting by beer. Hundreds of chunky "Pulp Fiction"
> > > style latex suited protestors at a systemd talk. Eww.
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 21:50 +0000, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> > > 
> > > Uh-oh – Now the tin foil hat paranoids are going to remind us Systemd is a
> > > plot for world domination.   Silly people think the d at the end of Systemd
> > > is for “daemon” but **they** KNOW it is for “domination”.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of *Jim
> > > ] *On Behalf Of *Jim
> > > Kinney
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:38 PM
> > > *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > > *Subject:* Re: [ale] Linux Foundation quietly drops community
> > > representation
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > While the original gummiboot sources are gone, the code still exists but
> > > was merged into everyone's favorite tool: systemd
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gummiboot-Is-Dead
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So Linux systems still have a EUFI boot tool but it's part of systemd as
> > > SD-boot. Looks like the entire code base was dumped in and renamed SD-boot.
> > > The original author worked on both projects.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have not used it nor have I poked at it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ArchLinux has more info on  using it
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-boot
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sort of like when serial mice were dropped from the kernel.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 16:23 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 08:26:39 -0600
> > > 
> > > Preston <preston.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Very disappointed with this:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Up until recently, the Linux Foundation allowed the individual
> > > 
> > > members to elect two board members and ensure that the voice of Linux
> > > 
> > > community is considered at the board meetings. In a shocking change,
> > > 
> > > the Foundation has erased this clause and decided to benefit the
> > > 
> > > corporate companies rather that whole community."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
http://fossbytes.com/why-linux-foundations-latest-change-is-a-bad-new-for-open-source/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Preston
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This surprises me not one bit. Linux Foundation is organized for big
> > > 
> > > corporations, not for the unpaid developers and non-corporate users who
> > > 
> > > built Linux in the first place. Here's a quote from Wikipedia:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ============================================================
> > > 
> > > Its funding comes primarily from its Platinum Members: Fujitsu, HP,
> > > 
> > > IBM, Intel, NEC, Oracle, Qualcomm, and Samsung and for many years
> > > 
> > > Hitachi.[23] These nine each having a representative on the Board of
> > > 
> > > Directors, they hold a majority on the 16-person board.[24]
> > > 
> > > ============================================================
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What I find quite scary about this is that the Linux Foundation
> > > 
> > > possesses one of the few all-distro methods to boot with Secure Boot.
> > > 
> > > The microsecond their major contributors decide an all-distro method to
> > > 
> > > boot Secure Boot is contrary to their bottom line, none of us have an
> > > 
> > > all-distro method, unless we find the last version, and fork it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > According to gummiboot Wikipedia page
> > > 
> > > 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gummiboot_(software) :
> > > ) :
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > =============================================================
> > > 
> > > In May 2015, gummiboot was fully integrated into systemd to form its
> > > 
> > > systemd-boot component that serves as a UEFI boot manager.[2][3]
> > > 
> > > Following this action, the source code repository of gummiboot was
> > > 
> > > emptied out in July 2015.
> > > 
> > > =============================================================
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "The source code repository of gummiboot was emptied out in July 2015."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Makes it just a little harder to fork, doesn't it?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From where I stand, corporate Linux will foreclose user choice if such
> > > 
> > > foreclosure enhances the corporation's bottom line.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Unless you own or are paid by a big corporation, Linux Foundation is
> > > 
> > > not your friend.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > SteveT
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Steve Litt
> > > 
> > > January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
> > > 
> > > 
http://www.troubleshooters.com/28
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > --
> > > 
> > > James P. Kinney III
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
> > > 
> > > gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
> > > 
> > > own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
> > > 
> > > - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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James P. Kinney III

Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain

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