[ale] Training in Opensource Backups?

DJ-Pfulio djpfulio at jdpfu.com
Thu Jan 21 10:27:41 EST 2016


Think I have an Adaptec 2940 here somewhere gathering dust. ;)  It is probably
next to the SSD I needed last month for chromebook recovery and never found.

Should I search for the card?


On 01/21/2016 10:04 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> That could work. Can be done with a beefy laptop with multiple VMs and
> using hard drive backups instead of tape.
> 
> I do have some older tape libraries that could be pressed into service.
> SCSI cards are scarce in my shop. Trying to obtain an outdated LTO3 rig now.
> 
> Or could use 2 towers and library for semi hands on setups.
> 
> Late March at the earliest. Will need to filter attendees for at least
> junior admin skills. Not a topic for beginners without vim basics and
> filesystems and some regex fu. Need to limit to under 10.
> On Jan 21, 2016 9:52 AM, "DJ-Pfulio" <djpfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Jim,
>>
>> Would a Saturday morning 4 hr session be enough for backula training?  I'd
>> be
>> very interested in something like this, since I've never gotten it working.
>> We'd want some minimum committed people before bothering.
>>
>> I can offer 2+ hr rdiff-backup hands-on training. Just need a place to do
>> it
>> where folks can either do it on their own local systems or connect to one
>> of
>> their remote systems and do it there. Really best if 2 systems connected
>> by ssh
>> already up and working so the rdiff-backup can use a "pull" backup
>> technique.
>> This is usually more secure than a "push" method.  I can add
>> mysql/mariaDB/postgresql backups to this for non-huge DBs too. I'd do this
>> if at
>> least 5 people with the required prerequisite skills committed - 10 is
>> probably
>> too many for something like this.
>>
>> The hard part is clearly specifying the prerequisite skills required.
>> Tried to
>> do a "Setup KVM 101" session at ALE-NW 2 yrs ago and over half the
>> attendees
>> didn't understand sudo vi or basic networking things (like editing the
>> "interfaces" file to add bridge settings - I provided the bridge settings
>> needed. Not their fault because I didn't consider those to be
>> prerequisites.
>> I'd want to do better going forward.
>>
>> Would need a place to do this. Seems the KSU group might be starting up
>> again,
>> so we might have a place.
>>
>> Would training like this be something the group as a whole liked?
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/21/2016 09:28 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>> Bacula is quite amazing. It's the only backup solution I use.
>>>
>>> It's tedious to setup and the documentation is so detailed it can be
>>> overwhelming.
>>>
>>> Currently I use it with some LTO6 tape libraries. One has a single drive
>>> and the other has dual.
>>>
>>> I have small pool used for worm tapes for off site backup/archive. Manual
>>> insertion plus a library scan, incremental backup of specific area to
>> worm
>>> pool will pull the worm tape. Release when done, export and store
>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Take the time to master the bacula bare-iron recovery of itself. Had to
>> use
>>> it once and it totally saved my bacon. Raid controller freaked and wrote
>>> crap to drive array until the system crashed. Replaced controller (and
>>> drives) and pulled out the panic disk. Booted it, ran the OS restore from
>>> tape, rebooted, ran second restore for other stuff (very busy machine
>> with
>>> multiple partitions and functions -backups and samba), rebooted, back to
>>> other things.
>>>
>>> The bacula-web gives pretty pictures for PHB consumption.
>>>
>>> The windows client works well. Not tried some of the other stuff.
>>> On Jan 21, 2016 9:10 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner at dsservices.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone using one of these like Bacula or Amanda that would care to
>> comment
>>>> on the following?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From what I saw yesterday it appears Bacula supports most of the things
>> we
>>>> do now with Netbackup such as Windows MSSQL, Hyper-V,  Oracle RMAN,
>> UNIX,
>>>> Linux and Windows clients.   It also has plugins for Postgres and MySQL
>> I
>>>> think (NetBackup doesn’t have direct plugins for these like it does RMAN
>>>> and MSSQL).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone comment on how well any of that works for them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is overall licensing costing you for the various plugins and for
>>>> using shared tape library and deduplication appliances?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How you do vaulting (i.e. duplicating images to tape to be sent off
>> site)?
>>>>    I know about offsite replication for deduplication units but we
>> aren’t
>>>> doing that so please don’t suggest it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anything else you’d like to share on use of OpenSource backup products.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note:
>>>>
>>>> We will NOT be doing a setup wherein we just do tar or rsync or some
>> other
>>>> home brewed solution.   I’m asking about a full enterprise solutions for
>>>> hundreds of physical servers and/or virtual guests.
>>>>
>>
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