[ale] glibc vulnerability

Michael H. Warfield mhw at WittsEnd.com
Tue Feb 3 13:22:13 EST 2015


On Tue, 2015-02-03 at 00:57 -0500, Steve Nicholas wrote:
> I can understand another round coming. WTF is below and how does it
> relate to Linux??  We just had 258 boxes upgraded.  Comics are not
> appreciated.

Guess that leaves me out.
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>         Close...
>         
>         On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 08:55 -0500, Jonathan Meek wrote:
>         > The U.S Tax Code is pretty simple:
>         > If you're an individual that makes money, pay taxes.
>         
>         If you're an individual that makes some money, pay taxes.
>         If you makes lots of money, like more each year than most
>         people earn in
>         a lifetime, you win the game and pay very little.
>         
>         > If you're a corporation that makes money, hide it somewhere.
>         
>         If you employ very few people and can't leave town on
>         vacation, you pay
>         taxes and fees on nearly everything.
>         If you employ a large number of people, and they are all in
>         the US, you
>         pay some taxes but get some perks.
>         If you employ large numbers of people you get huge tax breaks
>         especially
>         if you contract with the federal and state governments on
>         projects that
>         used to be done by public service employees.
>         If you have a gigantic number of employees and most used to be
>         in the US
>         but now are in other countries after tax-incentive "right
>         sizing", you
>         get special bonus perks of a designated ear in Congress and a
>         free bank
>         account in the Caymans. You pay very, very little tax money
>         but use the
>         court system like crazy to defend "property" that is owned by
>         a tiny
>         firm in the Caymans that you hid your profits in.
>         
>         > If you're an individual that doesn't make money,  then
>         recieve money.
>         
>         If you're an individual that makes very little money, you get
>         some money
>         handed to you so Walmart doesn't have to pay you enough to
>         survive.
>         If you're an individual that makes no money, you probably live
>         in the
>         street or with family and have no access to resources at all
>         since you
>         have no address, or ID, or ability to get either. And you
>         can't vote.
>         >
>         > *ducks for the punch being thrown*
>         
>         +1
>         
>         >
>         > On Jan 31, 2015 11:32 AM, "Michael B. Trausch"
>         <mike at trausch.us>
>         > wrote:
>         >         On 01/30/2015 05:26 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>         >
>         >         > Hogwash. Where there's a will, there's a probate
>         court.
>         >
>         >         Hah, hah.  Very funny.  :-)
>         >
>         >         I've been involved in a few projects lately where
>         it's been
>         >         more important to prove workability and robustness
>         than to
>         >         have every feature in the world, so I've not been
>         using glibc
>         >         much lately.  I certainly can't audit it.
>         >
>         >         Then again, I cannot audit the Linux kernel, either.
>         >
>         >         But, the more code in my system I can read through
>         and audit
>         >         for my own personal satisfaction—or any other reason
>         in the
>         >         world—the closer I get to the goal of understanding
>         every line
>         >         of code in the system.
>         >
>         >         I didn't think that was a terribly important thing
>         to be able
>         >         to do, but several projects working with
>         microcontrollers have
>         >         shown me different.  While the world from that
>         perspective is
>         >         a very different place, the concepts are the same,
>         and it's
>         >         rather liberating when you can point to something
>         and know why
>         >         it broke because you have a very clear understanding
>         of your
>         >         entire set of code.
>         >
>         >         That's something which is impossible on any modern
>         >         general-purpose operating system today.  I'd almost
>         be willing
>         >         to bet that Linux and the U.S. Tax Code are just as
>         complex as
>         >         the other one (though at least Linux can be
>         compiled!).
>         >
>         >             — Mike
>         >
>         >
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>         James P. Kinney III
>         
>         Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail.
>         What you
>         gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog
>         on his
>         own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
>         - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
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