[ale] What did we want?
Neal Rhodes
neal at mnopltd.com
Fri Jan 31 12:45:38 EST 2014
Just in the spirit of keeping the discussion rolling, I will note that
actually Apple has done a MUCH BETTER job of providing security updates
than Android. This is likely more the fault of phone carriers than
Google.
The list of currently running Android phones which have no security
updates, or any android updates at all, is rather large, i.e. pretty
much all of them. It seems the carriers lose interest in providing
updates after the phone is sold.
According to the chart I saw, pretty much all the iphone models can/are
updated. Granted, there aren't as many models.
Neal Rhodes
MNOP Ltd
Verizon HTC Android phone user
On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 09:17 -0500, Charles Shapiro wrote:
> Heh. The Android world has been treating me pretty ok. I know that
> cyanogenmod (http://cyanogenmod.org) just made a new windows-only
> installer, but installing it from linux is relatively simple. Plus,
> developing from Linux to Android is surprisingly easy.
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> -- CHS
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> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:23 PM, William Wylde <durtybill at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> I agree with this. Even my dad, who is mostly computer
> illiterate, runs Google Chrome and the Zorin fork of Ubuntu on
> several machines. Sadly, some things still require M$ or
> Crapple (like the crappy iPhone I have, which won't sync with
> anything but windbloze and Crapple OS), but overall, I think
> Linux use has expanded the world over. I've also found that
> nowadays drivers for various hardware is supported better, and
> more likely to be automagically installed or loaded than with
> windbloze. I.E. Windoze, in their efforts to provide
> backdoors for the NSA and pursue their unending striving for
> vendor lock-in, has become less user friendly than Linux.
> Crapple is always un-upgradeable, and every few years locks
> out backwards-compatibility in an effort to force more
> hardware purchases. Plus, crapple is crap. The iPhone 4s I
> have has many manufacturing defects in the screen (bubbles in
> the glass) and in the display (a black spot- which I
> understand is rather common), and, of course, cannot be
> upgraded in any fashion, and is a pain in the ass to use in so
> many ways- particularly iTunes, and the camera app crashes as
> often as it works.
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> I think Linux is safe in it's future. As was noted, it just
> requires less tech support to use it now.
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> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Charles Shapiro
> <hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I dunno about that. Maybe Linux just got good enough
> that a whole lot of tech support isn't needed. My
> brother now runs linux on his machines, and while he
> is a power user he has no skill or interest in
> actually programming. He just finds Ubuntu easier and
> more secure than the alternatives.
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> -- CHS
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> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Jeff Hubbs
> <jhubbslist at att.net> wrote:
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> On 1/28/14, 6:34 PM, Vernard Martin wrote:
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>
> Summary: The attendance itself was a
> sign that ALE is on its last legs. It
> doesn't matter what we want as
> obviously no one showed up to even
> state what they wanted :)
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> Perhaps it's because Linux as a
> community-based alternative to big software
> vendor hegemony is on its last legs. A
> Windows alternative with excellent hardware
> support and buy-it-and-turn-it-on convenience
> appeared in the form of a re-ascendant Apple,
> and most Linux usage was vacuumed up by a
> traditional for-pay model as presented by Red
> Hat. If you have vendor-sourced classes and
> certification tests instead of self-assembling
> forums, IRC channels, and listservs, community
> is no longer all that important.
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