[ale] just thinking
Damon L. Chesser
damon at damtek.com
Mon Jan 27 13:14:19 EST 2014
On 01/27/2014 12:47 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
> I personally like XFCE, Cinnamon, and Mate for a desktop. I never
> really liked KDE and it is aesthetic reasons not technical reasons, I
> can use it. I have played with Enlightenment. The current Gnome and
> Unity I can use but do not like for aesthetic reasons.
I prefer XFCE for daily use, I can use Unity or Gnome, but again, for me
it is usability. I want to like them, but they get in the way of
getting things done. alt-click, open new window, really? why can't I
just open a new term or a new browser and why do I have to type to find
a terminal, why is there not a list? Sigh. Of the two of them, i find
Unity slightly easier (out of the box) to use. XFCE has that throw back
technology, a list of programs you can browse. Go figure.
Gnome and Unity are essentially tablet interfaces customized for a
Desktop and they fail. I don't want one DE to rule them all, I expect a
touch screen to act one way, a mouse interface to act another. Windows
8 falls flat for the same reason.
black box with Cairo dock is pretty rocking for hard core just get
things done.
>
> Jay
> On 01/27/2014 12:39 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>> The longer I use gnome, the more it just becomes a container for
>> terminal sessions.
>>
>> For me, for the most part, gnome "works". The "lets copy Apple iPad"
>> crap is beyond old and silly. It's a bad work flow (which gnome
>> admitted they did _NO_ study of at all) as now things i could do with
>> 1-3 clicks are 4-5 with scrolling and things I could do with 4-5 are
>> not feasible.
>>
>> Didn't use KDE from the beginning due to QT licensing. It looked to
>> much like winders for too long so I haven't looked at it years.
>>
>> XFCE is nice and light and pretty much stays out of my way. Haven't
>> tinkered with Enlightenment is a long time. Always seemed like lots
>> of eye candy distractions (but some of the themes were easy to read).
>>
>> I think my pupils are changing from round to rectangular.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:57 AM, James Taylor
>> <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
>> <mailto:James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I've never liked Gnome, starting with version 0.x.
>> I've been using KDE since I started using linux for my exclusive
>> desktop about 12 years ago.
>> I hated the 4.0 release, but I was able to continue using 3.x
>> until they got it sorted out.
>> I still like the configurability of KDE. I still have basically
>> the same setup that I did when I started.
>> Since I use the desktop for almost all of my daily work
>> activities, change is bad, unless it improves the process. Change
>> is especially bad if it doesn't work for me and doesn't give me an
>> alternative to revert to the old way.
>> I check out some of the other GUI environments occasionally, but I
>> haven't seen the benefit the change would give me that would be
>> worth the process of figuring out how to do all the things I do
>> now without thinking about it.
>> Functionality beats pretty any day of the week.
>> -jt
>>
>>
>>
>> James Taylor
>> 678-697-9420 <tel:678-697-9420>
>> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
>> <mailto:james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> "Michael H. Warfield" <mhw at WittsEnd.com> 1/27/2014 11:28 AM >>>
>> On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 14:12 +0000, Beddingfield, Allen wrote:
>> > I gave up on KDE years ago, and on Gnome at 3.x. Before that, I
>> was
>> > almost exclusively a Gnome user. These days, I've found that the
>> > simplicity of XFCE is best for me. It just gets out of my way, and
>> > lets me do what I need to do - switch between a bazillion terminal
>> > sessions, Firefox, and OpenOffice, while playing music in the
>> > background.
>>
>> I've never been fond of KDE. Reminded me too much of the old SCO
>> ODT
>> desktop but it may have grown up some from when I tried it last.
>>
>> I've pretty much given up on Gnome 3.x. Looks ugly, they keep
>> making it
>> harder and harder to find the apps you want, and it's a performance
>> death trap.
>>
>> I pretty much use XFCE with the Enlightenment 16 (yeah, I'm a die
>> hard)
>> window manager.
>>
>> > --
>> > Allen Beddingfield
>> > Systems Engineer
>> > The University of Alabama
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
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