[ale] Debian fork thoughts?

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Mon Dec 1 14:28:48 EST 2014


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On Dec 1, 2014 1:46 PM, "leam hall" <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeremy and Solomon,
>
> As a non-Debian person I appreciate your insights. I really would like
> a cleaner OS but systemd is not my cup of tea.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Leam
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Jeremy T. Bouse
> <jeremy.bouse at undergrid.net> wrote:
> > Brief disclaimer beforehand... I'm a Debian Developer and have been part
> of
> > the project since 2001.
> >
> > Now, that said, I'm not giving this "fork" any of my time based solely on
> > the behavior of the anti-systemd individuals that have, and still, caused
> > disruptions on the mailing lists, irc chat rooms and an other medium they
> > could. They have tried repeated to work against the established methods
> to
> > do things and when they couldn't pigeon-hole and force the results they
> > wanted caused even more problems. Finally they have decided to fork the
> > project which as someone else already pointed out is going to be a
> > derivative that is almost 99% original to upstream just simply stripping
> out
> > the entire systemd system which already can be removed and use SysV init
> > with a shim for systemd that allows those aspects that have hard-coded
> > dependencies on systemd (namely GNOME comes to mind as the biggest reason
> > requiring systemd).
> >
> > If they could have found a better way to argue their point I might give
> what
> > they have to say some bearing but they have been unable to do so and I
> > highly doubt they ever will. I expect this forked derivative to be very
> > volatile and as an IT professional wouldn't use it for anything more
> than a
> > throw away virtual machine if I did look at it.
> >
> > On 01.12.2014 12:23, leam hall wrote:
> >>
> >> You've probably seen the news that Debian has forked. I'm interested
> >> in a much smaller OS that works. Would love to hear your perspectives
> >> on this. It seems like a Good Thing (tm).
> >>
> >> Leam
> >
> >
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