[ale] Ubuntu Desktop 13.10

Horkan Smith ale at horkan.net
Fri Oct 25 12:11:40 EDT 2013


Hi Edward;

I'm not sure any of these ideas actually match what you're trying to do, but just-in-case:

1 - take a look at the cron-apt package to schedule downloads and installs completely non-interactively

2 - same idea, take a look at the ubuntu admin page https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/serverguide/automatic-updates.html

3 - I'm not sure if that message would be affected by any of the dpkg --force* options, or if the dpkg 'Status-Fd' option would help - if so, you could use the aptitude '-o' option to test it out.

4 - Similar idea, have you tried re-directing the i/o on your aptitude command?  I'm wondering if just redirecting the input from /dev/null would tell aptitude it's running non-interactively, so it wouldn't wait for a prompt.

later!
   horkan


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 08:36:58AM -0400, Edward Holcroft wrote:
> This was helpful. I have another similar issue that has bugged me for a
> while. I do a sudo aptitude full-upgrade and sometimes, depending on the
> packages getting upgraded a message something like this appears:
> 
> Get:1 Changelog for python-problem-report (
> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/a/apport/apport_2.0.1-0ubuntu17.6/changelog)
> [326 kB]
> apport (2.0.1-0ubuntu17.6) precise-security; urgency=low
> 
>   * SECURITY UPDATE: incorrect permissions on setuid process core dumps
>     (LP: #1242435)
>     - use correct permissions when writing the core file in data/apport,
>       added test to test/test_signal_crashes.py.
>     - Thanks to Martin Pitt for the patch!
>     - CVE-2013-1067
> 
>  -- Marc Deslauriers <marc.deslauriers at ubuntu.com>  Wed, 23 Oct 2013
> 13:04:37 -0400
> 
> Get:1 Changelog for cloud-init (
> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/c/cloud-init/cloud-init_0.6.3-0ubuntu1.8/changelog)
> [43.7 kB]
> cloud-init (0.6.3-0ubuntu1.8) precise-proposed; urgency=low
> 
>   * debian/patches/lp-1233315-add-smartos-support.patch:
>     Add SmartOS DataSource, including disk format support (LP: #1233315).
>   * debian/patches/lp-1231490-azure-ephemeral-format.patch:
>     Format Windows Azure ephemeral disks (LP: #1231490)
>   * debian/patches/lp-1233315-1231490-ephmeralX.Y-support.patch:
>     Add support for referencing ephemeral devices as 'ephemeralX.Y
>     (LP: #1231490, LP: #1233315)
> 
>  -- Ben Howard <ben.howard at ubuntu.com>  Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:17:35 -0600
> 
> 
> This message only qoes away when I hit quit, and then the upgrade
> completes. Problem is I'm running updates via script on several boxes, so I
> often end-up with incomplete updates after I've run my script. There are
> all Ubuntu 12.04LTS boxes.
> 
> Any thoughts on how to get my script to include a "q" if necessary?
> 
> My command looks like this:
> 
> ssh -i /home/xxx/ec2-keys/xxx.pem user at xxx.com 'sudo aptitude -y
> full-upgrade; exit'
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Shawn <taaj.shawn at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Here ya go.
> >
> > http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/09/21/debian-conffile-configuration-file-managed-by-dpkg/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm surprised that doesn't work. Rpm distros recognize a config change
> >> and create the new config file as foo.cfg.rpmnew.
> >> Maybe there's a flag to add on upgrade to preserve all edited configs.
> >> Not sure. Bombed the Debian section of LPI :-(
> >> On Oct 20, 2013 6:40 PM, "Wolf Halton" <wolf.halton at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I updated Thursday night to Ubuntu to 13.10 with no problems on my
> >>> 6-yr-old HP laptop, mostly while I was at Melton's.  It was not quite a
> >>> lights-out install. I had to approve keeping my edited config files for 2
> >>> services.  I wish the install script would just keep edited configs and
> >>> roll on.
> >>>
> >>> Wolf Halton
> >>> --
> >>> http://wolfhalton.info
> >>> Apache developer:
> >>> wolfhalton at apache.org
> >>> On Oct 19, 2013 9:37 AM, "Edward Holcroft" <eholcroft at mkainc.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Just upgraded my 3 home Ubuntu boxes to 13.10.
> >>>>
> >>>> Was a seamless upgrade on 2 machines (64 bit). On one 8 year-old
> >>>> notebook that gets used heavily for Facebook etc every day (32 bit)
> >>>> everything froze up half way through. It seemed like the CPU became
> >>>> overheated during installation - was very hot to the touch. Could run a
> >>>> command line and top did not reveal anything out of the ordinary like a CPU
> >>>> spike. I was unable to get dpkg to release the sources.list file no matter
> >>>> what kills I tried, so did a reboot followed by live-DVD repair. The repair
> >>>> option is pretty impressive - found the broken 13.10 installation and fixed
> >>>> it while keeping all data files intact as well as the Doze 7 on dual boot
> >>>> left unharmed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Seems to be a minor upgrade, I'm not seeing any real visual
> >>>> differences, other than a bunch of new lenses, which I don't really use
> >>>> extensively. New kernel of course, and latest versions of various apps.
> >>>> This leads me to think about 14.04, which I would guess, would be another
> >>>> minor upgrade, given that it's LTS. If that's the case, and I cannot see
> >>>> Canonical going ott on an LTS release, it'd make for two fairly boring
> >>>> releases consecutively, which is interesting given the recent releases that
> >>>> have been bleeding edge to the point of being sub-functional if not broken
> >>>> in some areas. I'm kinda pleased they focused on just getting things stable
> >>>> rather than going with the threatened move to Mir at this point. I recently
> >>>> switched my work desktop to Wheezy stable (bit of an overreaction I guess,
> >>>> I could've dropped back to 12.04 or so, but I've always wanted to try a
> >>>> Debian desktop) 'cos Unity was just breaking on me way too often. It'll be
> >>>> really interesting/surprising if they bring Mir in for 14.04.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the 32 bit version, Chrome still seems to be broken. This issue from
> >>>> 13.04 is still there:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/359530/google-chrome-update-wont-install-due-to-unmet-dependencies
> >>>>
> >>>> Although you can make it work if you try, it'd be nice to see a fixed
> >>>> version released.
> >>>>
> >>>> Another issue that came up on one of my 64 bit boxes (although I don't
> >>>> think it's a specifically 64 bit issue) is too little disk space on /boot,
> >>>> so the upgrade failed until that was addressed. I had too many kernels in
> >>>> there and had to delete the old ones. I used this handy script that I've
> >>>> used many times on my Amazon Ubuntu servers:
> >>>>
> >>>> dpkg -l linux-* | awk '/^ii/{ print $2}' | grep -v -e `uname -r | cut
> >>>> -f1,2 -d"-"` | grep -e [0-9] | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
> >>>>
> >>>> from here:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
> >>>>
> >>>> I see this as an unacceptable error on a distro aimed at easy
> >>>> installation, noob demographic. Most noobs I know would've run a mile at an
> >>>> error like that. Of course, if this was fresh installation, I would not
> >>>> have experienced this issue since there'd be no old kernels installed. But
> >>>> why on earth would there be a limit (and apparently a relatively low one at
> >>>> that) on /boot on a distro of this nature?
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, that's my quick first experience with 13.10 ... it works, a bit
> >>>> of a yawn, frankly. Nothing that jumps out at me to say don't touch this.
> >>>> Still a great distro for first timers, and even experienced users as long
> >>>> as Unity can hold it together under high user demands.
> >>>>
> >>>> cheers
> >>>> ed
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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