[ale] Fedora grousing

James Sumners james.sumners at gmail.com
Wed Oct 23 08:16:15 EDT 2013


Oh look, someone else that doesn't like the F18 installer --
https://plus.google.com/u/0/102150693225130002912/posts/GqUgcYcfQuV

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> Chuck et al,
>
> As a   l o n g   time red hat then fedora user, I thought the new installer
> in fedora 18 was bad implementation of a decent but unpolished idea.
> I think philosophically the idea is to make it so a total newbie could get a
> working install. But it was done at the expense of all the experienced
> users.
> The partitioning tool is nearly useless. It allows ZERO control over mdraid
> partitions. It's really only useful for making a simple desktop.
> The package selection is crippled as well. Again simplicity trumps
> functionality.
> I suspect RHEL will fork anaconda out of need.
> Kickstart is a great tool but it's for very advanced users not just average
> users or even many pro admins will find it in their bag of tricks. Add to it
> the commands change a bit with every release and it's a recipe for rollout
> headaches. And it's got bugs. The command clearpart --all doesn't support
> the --ondisk= flag so it only wipes sda. That fails for a 4 disk box being
> repurposed! I had to manually zero out partition tables on all drives before
> pxe booting kickstart of F19. And the current anaconda only understands raid
> 1 with 2 partitions. A 3 or 4 will lock it up (spits dots on the screen and
> hangs).
>
> Sadly, it looks like Fedora is taking the path of decreasing flexibility to
> increase ease of use without providing a means to support the familiar
> extensive customizations. If it's an attempt to gain users by lowering the
> bar for user skill, I strongly disagree. Winders and sMac are perfect for
> the clueless masses. I don't want throngs of mentally lazy newbies using
> sophisticated and dangerously powerful tools like Linux. Granted, Fedora
> ships with all services off and selinux on full enforcing so it's quite
> secure. But for noobs, that security is hidden from view and thus more
> computer magic.
> </rant>
>
>
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