[ale] Ubuntu Desktop 13.10

Don Kramer donkramer at gmail.com
Sat Oct 19 11:33:55 EDT 2013


Yes I believe it is. My daily driver is a System76 laptop that came
pre-installed with Ubuntu 12.10, so to remove is "sudo apt-get remove
unity-lens-shopping" or the link below.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/107701/how-to-disable-lenses-in-the-in-the-dash-menu

I may give it a few weeks before I upgrade and let whatever might shakeout
shakeout, as well as for a few PPAs I use to have versions for 13.10.
Remember non-LTS releases from 13.04 going forward only have a nine month
support window, with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS supported until April 2017, 12.10
supported until April 2014.

Canonical has gone pretty conservative IMHO as XMir isn't ready (originally
it was going to be the default behavior in Ubuntu 13.10 for all hardware
that supports it), as well as not only the community splintered between
Canonical's Xmir and Xorg's Wayland, but Intel announced in early September
a 180 and announced they were not going to support Xmir (and Canonical
would have too). In all likely hood unless Canonical tries to bring Xmir to
14.04 in all likely hood I think 14.04 will be Unity 7 and Xwindows, and
Xmir and Unity 8 at 14.10 at the earliest.  So I think for those who have
liked Unity 7 since Ubuntu 12.10 then you are likely going to be happy with
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.


On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> Is Canonical still tracking users by default?  I was under the impression
> that
> any release after 12.04 had tracking included.
>
>
>
> On 10/19/2013 09:32 AM, Edward Holcroft wrote:
> > Just upgraded my 3 home Ubuntu boxes to 13.10.
> >
> > Was a seamless upgrade on 2 machines (64 bit). On one 8 year-old
> notebook that
> > gets used heavily for Facebook etc every day (32 bit) everything froze
> up half
> > way through. It seemed like the CPU became overheated during
> installation - was
> > very hot to the touch. Could run a command line and top did not reveal
> anything
> > out of the ordinary like a CPU spike. I was unable to get dpkg to
> release the
> > sources.list file no matter what kills I tried, so did a reboot followed
> by
> > live-DVD repair. The repair option is pretty impressive - found the
> broken 13.10
> > installation and fixed it while keeping all data files intact as well as
> the
> > Doze 7 on dual boot left unharmed.
> >
> > Seems to be a minor upgrade, I'm not seeing any real visual differences,
> other
> > than a bunch of new lenses, which I don't really use extensively. New
> kernel of
> > course, and latest versions of various apps. This leads me to think
> about 14.04,
> > which I would guess, would be another minor upgrade, given that it's
> LTS. If
> > that's the case, and I cannot see Canonical going ott on an LTS release,
> it'd
> > make for two fairly boring releases consecutively, which is interesting
> given
> > the recent releases that have been bleeding edge to the point of being
> > sub-functional if not broken in some areas. I'm kinda pleased they
> focused on
> > just getting things stable rather than going with the threatened move to
> Mir at
> > this point. I recently switched my work desktop to Wheezy stable (bit of
> an
> > overreaction I guess, I could've dropped back to 12.04 or so, but I've
> always
> > wanted to try a Debian desktop) 'cos Unity was just breaking on me way
> too
> > often. It'll be really interesting/surprising if they bring Mir in for
> 14.04.
> >
> > On the 32 bit version, Chrome still seems to be broken. This issue from
> 13.04 is
> > still there:
> >
> >
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/359530/google-chrome-update-wont-install-due-to-unmet-dependencies
> >
> > Although you can make it work if you try, it'd be nice to see a fixed
> version
> > released.
> >
> > Another issue that came up on one of my 64 bit boxes (although I don't
> think
> > it's a specifically 64 bit issue) is too little disk space on /boot, so
> the
> > upgrade failed until that was addressed. I had too many kernels in there
> and had
> > to delete the old ones. I used this handy script that I've used many
> times on my
> > Amazon Ubuntu servers:
> >
> > dpkg -l linux-* | awk '/^ii/{ print $2}' | grep -v -e `uname -r | cut
> -f1,2
> > -d"-"` | grep -e [0-9] | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
> >
> > from here:
> >
> >
> http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
> >
> > I see this as an unacceptable error on a distro aimed at easy
> installation, noob
> > demographic. Most noobs I know would've run a mile at an error like
> that. Of
> > course, if this was fresh installation, I would not have experienced
> this issue
> > since there'd be no old kernels installed. But why on earth would there
> be a
> > limit (and apparently a relatively low one at that) on /boot on a distro
> of this
> > nature?
> >
> > Anyway, that's my quick first experience with 13.10 ... it works, a bit
> of a
> > yawn, frankly. Nothing that jumps out at me to say don't touch this.
> Still a
> > great distro for first timers, and even experienced users as long as
> Unity can
> > hold it together under high user demands.
> >
> > cheers
> > ed
> >
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