[ale] [OT] need help xp internal mon broken, ext mon inop

Ron Frazier (ALE) atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com
Wed Mar 20 22:33:28 EDT 2013


PS - I'd have no earthly idea how to do this on Linux dealing with the X 
system.

Ron

On 3/20/2013 10:11 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
> YES.  I want to thank you all for your suggestions.  Sometimes, just 
> talking things through is helpful.  I think I've got it back now.
>
> I went into the bios and set the display to activate the external port 
> and lcd panel.
>
> I went into safe mode.  I could then see the display.  I restored a 
> system restore point to yesterday.  I went into device manager and 
> disabled the internal panel.  I rebooted and I could see the screen, 
> but it was the wrong resolution.  This may be due to the kvm.  I went 
> into advanced settings and told the system not to hide modes the 
> monitor couldn't display.  I was then able to set it to 1280 x 1024 
> (normal for this pc).  I went back into device manager and disabled a 
> 2nd pnp monitor that it thinks is attached.  I have no idea what it 
> is, perhaps a port on the internal video controller that doesn't have 
> an external port.  I think I'm back up and running now.  I still have 
> to reinstall the patches, etc., this time with the monitor attached.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions guys.  I just needed that little extra 
> outside perspective to kickstart my brain.  Had this not worked, I was 
> prepared to try more radical measures that you had suggested.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
>
> On 3/20/2013 8:34 PM, Greg Clifton wrote:
>> Ron,
>>
>> Well, if you have the disc and the license code, you can 
>> always re-install (guaranteed cure for all Windows problems ;-) But 
>> then that will probably want to use the primary display so probably 
>> won't work. But, if you had a current backup you might 
>> try restoring that.
>>
>> If you see the BIOS screen, you should be able to go into the BIOS 
>> and set it to boot from a CD or USB stick so maybe UBCD4W would help?
>>
>> Now if you had a delay set for how long the computer waits to 
>> actually start loading Windows, you might be able to catch it and go 
>> into safe mode and MAYBE you'd get your external monitor back in safe 
>> mode, but I doubt it. If that did work and you knew which setting to 
>> change, which I don't off the top of my head. The external monitor 
>> was probably auto-disabled when the system booted and didn't find it.
>>
>> Maybe a serial console, but probably that would have needed to have 
>> been configured beforehand?
>>
>> Best,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) 
>> <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com 
>> <mailto:atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     Please don't flame me, but I need XP help.  I KNOW it's getting
>>     obsolete (per other threads), but there's something cool about
>>     keeping a vintage computer running as long as I can.  You guys
>>     are the geekiest people I know and I don't hang out on Windows
>>     forums.
>>
>>     I have a vintage 2002 laptop.  It's still very capable.  2.4 ghz
>>     cpu, 1 GB ram, 320 GB hdd.  The laptop hinges broke and the
>>     internal monitor is non functional, but the OS THINKS it's
>>     functional.  For years, I've been running on an external monitor
>>     via a kvm along with other pc's.  Through a series of unfortunate
>>     events, including rebooting with the kvm switched to another pc,
>>     as far as I can tell, the system now thinks the external monitor
>>     is both the extended desktop and is deactivated.
>>
>>     So, when I boot the PC, I see the bios requesting my password ON
>>     THE EXTERNAL monitor, so I know the monitor and vga port works.
>>      I enter it.  I see the boot menu on my external monitor.  I
>>     select Windows XP.  The monitor goes blank and never returns.  I
>>     can only assume that the windows login screen is showing up in
>>     the internal monitor (as far as the OS is concerned), but I
>>     cannot see that.  I know the OS is running, because I can press
>>     the power button briefly and, after 5 seconds or so, the system
>>     shuts down.
>>
>>     I've tried the function button on the keyboard to switch from
>>     internal to external monitor.  That does no good.  I tried the
>>     VGA mode boot option from the boot menu, and that worked.
>>      Operating in 640 x 480 mode is REALLY fun, not.  However, when I
>>     do a normal mode boot, it stays blank again.
>>
>>     Does anyone know how I can force the system back into mirror
>>     monitor mode, or better yet, permanently disable the internal
>>     monitor?  Even if I have to boot Ubuntu and mess with files,
>>     etc., that would be OK.
>>
>>     It won't kill me if I can't get this back, since I can boot
>>     Ubuntu and get to the files.  I just didn't want to retire the
>>     unit just yet.
>>
>>     Any help is greatly appreciated.
>>
>>     Sincerely,
>>
>>     Ron
>>
>>
>>
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