[ale] SSN and jobs-list

Wolf Halton wolf.halton at gmail.com
Sun Jun 9 19:08:25 EDT 2013


Right. This is a concept I would like to see so much, I have been working
on doing such a thing.  A real consulting co that gets things done - not
just a placement service - what a concept!

Wolf Halton
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On Jun 6, 2013 9:33 PM, "Jim Kinney" <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't see Jeralds  idea as an individual recruiting tool but more of a
> top shelf contracting group that really gets things done. Think
> professional org for hire.
> On Jun 6, 2013 9:19 PM, "JD" <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
>
>> Specific skills are only 25% of a job, IMHO.
>>
>> Soft-skills and how the applicant "fits" into the team matter much more
>> than any
>> specific skill ... unless the company wants a one-trick-pony.  Hiring a
>> smart
>> person, willing to learn and fit into multiple needs, is really what
>> companies
>> should be seeking.
>>
>> It is very hard to screen for these things.
>>
>> On 06/06/2013 08:41 PM, Jerald Sheets wrote:
>> > I've often said there's money to be HAD by doing the recruiting thing
>> "right".
>> >  Of course, you'd need to get the word out, but imagine this...
>> >
>> > You get some architecture level folks on your staff...  A Sr. Systems
>> person for
>> > the *nixes and one for the winders.  A DBA with a good broad swatch of
>> dbs, a
>> > dev who's got a wide array of things... you get the picture.  I mean,
>> you'd have
>> > to spend quite a year to staff, but everyone you represent would have
>> to pass
>> > your "experts".  Maybe even for startup you could use folks like that
>> on a
>> > retainer basis, eventually bringing them full time eventually.
>> >
>> >
>> > The candidates could be assured they wouldn't have a google monkey
>> playing
>> > "search and destroy" with a keyword from your resume from over a decade
>> ago that
>> > you only worked on for one project and now it's the thing that'll get
>> them paid.
>> >
>> > The clients would be assured that a highly technical recruiting staff
>> would put
>> > the candidates through a gauntlet of evaluation they MUST pass to be
>> submitted
>> > to the client.  Those experts would ensure they weren't wasting
>> anyone's time in
>> > whom gets submitted.  Either you've got the goods or you don't.
>> >
>> > Finally, the recruiting firm itself wouldn't work on some multiplier of
>> the
>> > hired person's salary or some arbitrary headhunting fee, but would be a
>> flat
>> > rate per head based on the quality of the eval/selection.  The firm
>> could charge
>> > more because the quality of the selections would be so much higher.
>> >
>> >
>> > Obviously there's a metric crap-ton of details surrounding that to be
>> worked
>> > out, but I bet it could work.
>> >
>> >
>> > --j
>> >
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