[ale] upgrading my obsolete Ubuntu 11.04 to What?

[Edward Holcroft]

"So, Vista, which was released in 2007, is supported until 2017, the same
as Ubuntu 12.04 LTS."

Well that settles it then: use Vista. :-)


On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <
atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> ( I've been tied up with hard drive maintenance lately.  I have some old
> threads still waiting for replies on tablet GUI's, hard drive maintenance,
> and hard drive partitions.  I've got some info to share on these topics
> when I can.  Thanks for all the replies to those earlier threads.  I just
> happened to be up late tonight and have been dealing with OS upgrades on
> Windows, so I thought I'd ask about OS upgrades on Linux too.)
>
> My Ubuntu 11.04 installs recently went out of support, so I'm considering
> upgrading.  I want to stick within the Debian lineage since I really like
> the efficient package management system of APT and am fairly familiar with
> the way Ubuntu does things.  I hate Unity, as I've ranted about before.  I
> do like Gnome 2, so I want something similar to that.
>
> I probably won't be doing Debian 6 Squeeze, per this article:
>
> http://www.osnews.com/story/**24535/Debian_6_Squeeze_Not_**Good/<http://www.osnews.com/story/24535/Debian_6_Squeeze_Not_Good/>
>
> The main options I'm aware of right now are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and Mint.
>  The idea of a full install isn't appealing, since there are hundreds of
> things I tweak when I install any new OS, and it takes several days.
>  (Firefox plus Ghostery plus Better Privacy plus NoScript plus Flash alone
> have about 80 settings options to check, for each user login.)  But, I
> could do a full install if I have to.
>
> Based on my reading, I'd probably put Mate on as the UI.  I know this, I
> must have a categorized MENU of all available apps, like Gnome 2.  The DASH
> button then type what you want option in Unity is fine if it's an ADJUNCT
> to the MENU.  If you know what you want, that's wonderful.  If there's a
> lot more about Linux that you don't know than what you do, like me, then
> you need a MENU.
>
> The other thing that's important to me is support.  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is
> supported for 5 years.  That's good.  Because, I'd much rather spend my
> time using the computer than upgrading it every couple of years or so.
>
> Frankly, Microsoft is doing better at this than the Linux community.  My
> Vista and Windows 7 installs get security and maintenance updates for 10
> years, compared to 5 for new LTS versions of Ubuntu, 3 for prior LTS
> versions (I think), and 1.5 or .5 for some products.
>
> So, Vista, which was released in 2007, is supported until 2017, the same
> as Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
> Windows 7, which was released in 2009, is supported until 2020, longer
> than any current Linux I'm familiar with.
>
> I think that if Linux developers want long term users, they need to get
> more serious about long term support.  Ubuntu's move to 5 year LTS support
> is a step in the right direction.
>
> Anyway, from a functionality and usability point of view, do you think I'd
> be better off with Ubuntu 12.04 and Mate, Mint and Mate, or something else?
>  I also want to make my upgrade path as relatively painless as possible.
>  I'm considering doing an in place upgrade to Ubuntu 11.10 and then an in
> place upgrade to 12.04.  I know that will take many hours, but hopefully,
> most things that used to work will still work.
>
> Any help is appreciated, as always.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
>
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