[ale] [OT] Liberties

leam hall leamhall at gmail.com
Thu Aug 22 11:31:14 EDT 2013


Maybe this is useful:  http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=17

Though, as it is a government source, it's trustworthiness is up for
debate.

Leam


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <
atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:

> Hi Johnny,
>
> That was a number I pulled from memory from a decade ago and it probably
> came from NRA, but I cannot remember for sure.  This is not something I've
> researched in a long time, so the number could be off.  The principle of
> detaining felons and violent criminals still applies.
>
> I googled repeat offender violent felonies and came up with this:
>
>
> http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=20060808&id=Gi4zAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dAgGAAAAIBAJ&pg=6675,2218456
>
> This is an image of a 2004 (I think) newspaper.  It's a bit hard to read,
> but I think it says:
>
> 50% of people convicted of violent felonies had a prior conviction
> 38% of people convicted of violent felonies had a prior felony conviction
> 15% of people convicted of violent felonies had a prior violent felony
> conviction
>
> So, I guess it gets more complex depending on how you interpret the
> numbers.
>
> Still, if we just keep all the felons off the street when we catch them
> the FIRST time, we reduce violent felonies by 38%.
>
> If we keep all the violent felons off the street when we catch them the
> FIRST time, we reduce violent felonies by 15%.  This stat is abominable.
>  These people shouldn't be back out.
>
> And, this only relates to the ones we catch again.  Some of them get
> smarter and learn how to commit crimes without getting caught.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> "Rev. Johnny Healey" <rev.null at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <
> >atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Furthermore, it's a documented fact that 75% or so of violent
> >felonies are
> >> committed by repeat offenders.  So, if you permanently imprison or
> >execute
> >> them the next time they repeat, then you reduce violent felonies by
> >75%.
> >>
> >
> >Can you cite your sources on this? I was under the impression that the
> >recidivism rate for violent offences was much lower than this.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Johnny
> >
> >
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