[ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh

Tue Oct 30 10:00:39 EDT 2012

Oh yeah, we went through a VMware audit.  It was over the top ridiculous.
We have a very large vSphere deployment, and they asked for the server
brand/model, system name, ip address, and license code for each host.
THEN the OS, name, and IP address of every VM, and which host it was
running on.  That last part is sort of useless, because we are using DRS
and they ping pong around between hosts all the time.  You would think
they would know that, since it IS their product.
Anyway, after killing a large amount of my time, we passed.
-- 
Allen Beddingfield
Systems Engineer
The University of Alabama

On 10/30/12 8:49 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner at water.com> wrote:

>Initial costs from RH may be higher but you need to be very  careful with
>any product from EMC which owns VMWare now.   Many of their customers
>have complained about overzealous audits.
>
>http://www.realstorygroup.com/Blog/1511-EMC-presages-broader-rise-in-softw
>are-audits
>
>We became a target of their audit team immediately after we let them know
>we were dumping EMC disk arrays in favor of Hitachi so it isn't
>restricted to Documentum mentioned in the article above.
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Scott
>McBrien
>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:51 AM
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>Subject: Re: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh
>
>Allen,
>
>RHEV can either use a RHEL hypervisor (which you pay your normal pricing
>for RHEL) or a more appliance-y RHEL based distro called RHEV-H which has
>its own pricing.
>
>If you're interested in evaluating RHEV, it might be worth while to take
>the RH318 training class.  I see a lot of people check it out that way.
>
>-Scott
>
>On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:59 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen" <allen at ua.edu> wrote:
>
>> So what does it end up approximately costing you per-host?  Our cost
>> per-physical host for RHEL is higher than our cost for VMware
>>Enterprise Plus on a 4 socket server :) If we were going that route, I
>>would probably do KVM on SUSE SLES with the libvirt tools or Citrix
>>XenServer, since we already have both of those in house.
>>
>> --
>> Allen Beddingfield
>> Systems Engineer
>> The University of Alabama
>> ________________________________
>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [ale-bounces at ale.org] on behalf of Jim
>> Kinney [jim.kinney at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:54 PM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>> Subject: Re: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh
>>
>>
>> RHEL is a different pricing structure than VMWare. Vmware has limits
>>per tier on cpu sockets but not redhat.
>> Virt stuff is all gpl from rh. Manager will be in Centos once no longer
>>beta. Use licensees for high profile stuff and centos for others.
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2012 9:19 PM, "Beddingfield, Allen"
>><allen at ua.edu<mailto:allen at ua.edu>> wrote:
>> While I do not doubt that VMware has valid reasons to be quaking in
>>their boots, I'm not sure that Redhat would be the cause.  From my
>>experience, they aren't much less expensive than VMware :)  Of course,
>>my perspective may be a bit skewed. I am in higher-ed, where everything
>>is influenced by how large the academic discount will be.  Redhat's
>>academic discounts are small compared with those of their competitors.
>>It would probably work out more expensive for us to switch to RHEV.
>> Allen B.
>> --
>> Allen Beddingfield
>> Systems Engineer
>> The University of Alabama
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>
>> [ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>] on behalf of Jim
>> Kinney [jim.kinney at gmail.com<mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:25 PM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> Subject: [ale] snarky use of RedHat - heh, heh
>>
>> for those that have known me for a while, my loathing of all things
>> Microsoft is legendary. I saw the light of FREEDOM in 1992 and fully
>> embraced "My True Calling" in 1997. But sometimes people pay me to
>> kick a windwoes machine around the block.
>>
>> I finished a set up of RedHat Enterprise Virtualization 3.1 Beta (only
>> slightly easier than a simultaneous root canal and colonoscopy with no
>> pain killers.) and they have succeeded in removing the horrid
>> requirement of needed a WindWoes system to run the RHEV Manager gui.
>> It's a JBOSS stack and the preferred console interface is spice.
>>
>> It works quite well. Some bits are "different" but I am loading up a
>> Win7 as a test OS. If that pile of crap will load, ANYTHING will run!
>>
>> This should have VMWare quaking in their boots.
>>
>> Wolf- It finally worked!
>>
>> --
>> --
>> James P. Kinney III
>>
>> Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
>> gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
>> own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
>> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
>>
>> http://electjimkinney.org
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