[ale] Fwd: Jim - cannot post this message to ALE, please post for me

[Brian MacLeod]

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On 5/8/12 10:10 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> You're correct.   I forgot about ships because I've never taken a 
> cruise.


If you aren't highly susceptible to motion sickness, I'd say put it on
the bucket list. The Alaskan cruises remind you just how small you and
the ship are.  :-)


> Says: "Valid when entering the United States from Canada, Mexico,
> the Caribbean and Bermuda at land border crossings or sea
> ports-of-entry. Not valid for international travel by air."
> 
> My read of that is it wouldn't be valid for a cruise across the 
> Atlantic from Europe.  (Do they even do those any more, I wonder?)


Yes, they do, though not as frequently, and they are one way.  More
often than not, when a cruise line is repositioning a ship, they will
sell special itineraries for this purpose.  Carnival has 3-4 of these
coming up in the next year for extremely low prices (less than $50 a
night for a room and food!), but you have to find your way to/from
port, depending on debarkation point.


> The sentence is funny as it seems to imply there are land border 
> crossings with the Caribbean and Bermuda even though that isn't
> its intent. (Before anyone says it:  The Florida Keys don't count
> because no passport is required drving back from from them to the
> rest of the US even if Key West calls itself the "Conch Republic".
> :p)


The intent is to try and highlight that the cruises you can do this
with are supposed to be "closed-loop", meaning you start and end in
the same port.  Again, there are several cruises that are specials
when they rearrange ships, like through the Panama Canal or
repositioning between Miami/New Orleans/San Juan, PR.  You'd need a
full on passport for those as well.

Brian


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