[ale] Do all new large SATA drives suck?

gcs8 gcsviii at gmail.com
Fri Mar 2 14:33:37 EST 2012


I am squatting on 7+TB of data, but I would say buying drives atm is going
to be hit or miss, think the plant that makes the spindle motors is not
full of water any more, but everything I have read says ~q3 of this year
things will start getting back to normal.
On Mar 2, 2012 2:29 PM, "Cornelis van Dijk" <cor.angela0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> In defense of Seagate,
>
> Maybe Seagate is going easy on quality control nowadays, but I have a
> bunch of ancient 9GB
> Seagates, that are all running fine (after spinup!). They are big like
> shoeboxes, but indestructible.  I also have several Seagates in the
> range of 100 to 300 GB that have been running for years.  I would not
> know what to do with a TB drive, even my 500 GB FreeAgent is only 20%
> full.
>
>
> On 3/2/12, gcs8 <gcsviii at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Every seagate or maxtor drive I have owned has failed on me, the maxtors
> > where never hard fails. I do shy away from the 1.5tb drives from all the
> > problems they had in there early days. I had 2 of the 1.5tb seagates for
> my
> > drobo before the 2tb drives where out, they both died on me and I moved
> to
> > wd greens for it and never had a problem. The 40tb san in my house uses
> the
> > samsung spinpoint drives, I don't trust them as far as I can through them
> > but they are setup to take some hits.
> > On Mar 2, 2012 11:52 AM, "Geoffrey Myers" <lists at serioustechnology.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Geoffrey Myers wrote:
> >> > Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> >> >>   Consider that the vast majority of people buy and use those drives
> >> >> without incident and never think to put a review saying so on any one
> >> >> particular vendor site.
> >> >
> >> > My thinking as well.  People don't post about things that don't work.
> >>
> >> People don't ost about things that DO work.
> >> Jeese, and I've already had my coffee this morning.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> On 3/2/12 11:18 AM, Neal Rhodes wrote:
> >> >>> I've gone ahead and ordered an HP core i3 system to be our next
> Centos
> >> >>> home/office server.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's  got a 1.5TB drive; normally on these off-lease units I'd buy
> two
> >> >>> brand new drives and mirror them.  Or that's what we've done with
> the
> >> >>> last 3 linux servers.     All of which are still technically
> >> >>> functioning since Fedora core 1.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This drive is likely about a year old, so I'm thinking I'll just
> buy a
> >> >>> new 1.5TB drive and install Centos to mirror the primary.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> When I look at the crop of 1 - 1.5TB drives on TigerDirect and read
> >> >>> the reviews, they seem to be uniformly terrible - DOA,  failed
> after 3
> >> >>> weeks, replacement failed after a week, etc.  Seagate seems to be
> the
> >> >>> worst, although WD not too far behind.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ummm, isn't one of the primary selling features of a disk drive that
> >> >>> it's not supposed to blow up and take down all your data with it?
> >> >>> Has there been a massive quality slip in the last couple years
> since I
> >> >>> last bought drives?    Seriously -  I can lose a power supply, a
> >> >>> motherboard, a display - you name it, and once I replace it I can
> >> >>> expect to still have the data.    Yes, I should do backups, and I
> do,
> >> >>> and yes, I should mirror the drives, and I do.    I should do SMARTD
> >> >>> monitoring and I do.  But isn't this like selling tires that tend to
> >> >>> shred randomly?    Isn't not blowing up catastrophically with no
> >> >>> warning beforehand a basic selling point for disk drives?    What's
> >> >>> the point of mirroring if the odds are good that both drives will
> fail
> >> >>> completely the same week?   What's the point of SMARTD monitoring if
> >> >>> the darn drive quits without warning?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Does anybody make a decent drive in that size range?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm thinking that not even considering economy,  my old theory of
> >> >>> buying a pair of new identical drives may not be wise anymore, and
> >> >>> sticking with one drive that has lasted over a year and one new
> drive
> >> >>> is a better plan.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thoughts?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Neal
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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> >>
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