[ale] Giant storage system suggestions

Wolf Halton wolf.halton at gmail.com
Sun Jul 15 15:44:03 EDT 2012


Though my storage is FreeNAS (over FreeBSD running as a VM in ESXi), I like
it for ZFS and zraid2. the main benefit of FreeNAS is a web interface I
really don't need.

Wolf

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On Jul 15, 2012 2:48 AM, "Jeff Hubbs" <jhubbslist at att.net> wrote:

> I hate NASses and recommend them only for amateurs.  That is, amateurs I
> don't like. :)
>
> Replacing a vastly overpriced NAS (Netapp rebadged as IBM) with a
> Supermicro-based Linux/Samba machine full of SATA and SAS drives at a
> former employer saved tens of thousands of dollars and facilitated being
> able to do very fast ClamAV virus scans (at over 200MiB/s, IIRC) and
> searches and had the flexibility of...well, a Linux machine.  Compare
> this to having to pay IBM just to enable each protocol used (e.g., a few
> thou to switch on NFS).  On a contract job before that, a guy at LaCie
> eventually admitted to me that the NFS implementation on one of their
> products never worked right but they shipped regardless.  Crap like
> that.  But PHBs buy the things at the drop of a hat, thinking they're
> getting away with something.
>
> On 7/14/12 5:01 PM, Erik Mathis wrote:
> > Although this wasn't a solution with performance in mind, but this a
> > really cheap 12T (8.2T usable) solution
> >
> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822122062
> > and
> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236108
> > iirc it was about $1300 9 months ago.
> >
> > This readynas supports iscsi, nfs, cifs, and LVM snapshots. Also 2X
> > ethernet ports for bonding. If you have never used the readynas
> > products, they are basically linux boxes (using MD+LVM) and they have
> > a plugin system. They also have always been reliable for me. Anyway
> > its a cheap way to scale
> >
> > -Erik-
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Alex Carver <agcarver+ale at acarver.net>
> wrote:
> >> I'm trying to design a storage system for some of my data in a way that
> >> will be useful to duplicate the design for a project at work.
> >>
> >> Digging around online it seems that a common suggestion has been a good
> >> motherboard, a SATA/SAS card, a SATA/SAS expander, and then a huge
> >> chassis to support all of the SATA drives.
> >>
> >> It looks like one of the recommended SATA/SAS cards is an LSI 9200
> >> series card connected to an Intel RES2SV240 expander.
> >>
> >> What I'm trying to achieve is continually expandable storage space.  As
> >> more storage is required, I just keep slipping drives into the system.
> >> If I max out a case, I just add a SATA/SAS card, use external SATA/SAS
> >> cables (do those exist to go from SFF-8087 to SFF-8088?), another
> >> expander and then stretch into a new case.
> >>
> >> It's obviously going to run linux or I wouldn't be asking here. :)  The
> >> entire storage system will probably start somewhere around 10-16 TB and
> >> grow from there.  The first question would be suggestions for an optimal
> >> configuration of the disks.   For example, should the drives be grouped
> >> into say RAID-5 arrays with four devices per array and then logically
> >> combine them in software into a single storage volume?  If so, what file
> >> system will support something that could potentially reach beyond 100 TB
> >> (not that I'd reach 100 TB anytime soon but it can happen)?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
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