[ale] pay rates vs. experience

Matthew simontek at gmail.com
Mon Apr 30 05:11:08 EDT 2012


Thanks dave, that was really insightful. I get tired of recruiters
sending me 3 month contracts, for places nowhere me. And a lot of
recruiters calls/emails are cheap/not paying well. I wish they would
leave me alone.

On 4/30/12, David Ritchie <deritchie at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com>
> wrote:
>> On the most recent posting on the Ale jobs list I had to laugh when I saw
>> a
>> pay range of 65k-75k for everything THAT job entailed such as SAN
>> administration, managing 5000 domains in BIND just to name a couple.
>> Even
>> funnier was that it was 6 months CTP – Really?  They can’t figure out
>> whether someone is worthwhile in 3 months?   True you don’t really get
>> fully
>> up to speed in a new complex environment in less than 6 months but it
>> should
>> be obvious long before that whether you are CAPABLE of getting up to
>> speed
>> or not.
>
> Some headhunters use the term 'purple squirrel' to describe candidates
> that meet these qualifications.
> Needless to say, these jobs don't get filled quickly - purple
> squirrels are almost always already
> working, don't have to take contract jobs, and don't work for low $$.
> Headhunters hate these positions because they have to spend a lot of
> time working to fill them.
>
> Re wage rates -  there are employers that believe that because people
> building houses are out of work, that system administrators are in the
> same boat. not clueful....
>
> Often, when a person has a lot of qualfiication but not a lot of time
> in service, it is a warning that you
> really have to look at experience. Some  candidates writing down every
> item that was at the
> previous companies he/she worked for, whether or not they actually
> have any experience with the
> technology.
>
> Best regards,
> Dave Ritchie
>
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