[ale] Defective MoBo?

Jim Lynch ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com
Sat Jan 22 10:24:40 EST 2011


On 01/21/2011 10:59 PM, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 22:17 -0500, Scott Castaline wrote:
>> Sorry for using bandwidth on this, but I again asked Gigabyte if I
>> could
>> just RMA the board and here is their response:
>>
>> "Since Linux is open source we are unable to verify it, we suggest
>> testing with Windows based OS. It does not need to be Windows 7"
>>
>> I've already informed them that I don't have Windows and really can't
>> afford to buy it just to prove or disprove that this board is bad.
>>
>> Any comments?
> Right, because it is ever so much easier to "verify" an opaque binary
> blob.
>
> I seriously question the knowledge of the people behind some of these
> companies.  They are making hardware, which is by definition neutral of
> an operating system in particular.  Being that they are creating
> hardware (or at least, creating boards that use hardware that they
> supposedly have the specs for), it should be relatively easy for them to
> create a driver for any operating system; particularly one that is "open
> source" because there are so many people who are able to work on the
> bloody thing *and* the whole API is actually available in (somewhat
> readable) source code form.
>
> For fuck's sake, it would not be *all* that hard to build a minimalistic
> framework built around the Linux kernel (or for that matter, any member
> of the BSD family, if they're worried about being forced to commit
> indecent exposure) and provide a disk that boots up the kernel and loads
> a minimalistic program that can validate that all the hardware is up and
> running correctly and operating within specified parameters.  They used
> to do similar things with DOS-based boot floppies and CDs, and that was
> a much more difficult task.
>
> Is there such a thing as a hardware manufacturer that knows what
> supporting their product *actually* means?  I mean, seriously.  You'd
> think that motherboard manufacturers were in the business of selling
> illicit drugs, not selling and supporting their own hardware.
>
> 	--- Mike
Just an observation, I don't think MB manufacturers write drivers.  I 
think the drivers come from the people who furnish the chip sets.  I'd 
be willing to bet if you talked to the sis or via or Intel or whatever 
chipset folks wrote that software, they'd tell you the truth.

Jim.


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