[ale] veteran unix admin

David Tomaschik david at systemoverlord.com
Tue Feb 15 14:13:01 EST 2011


Jim,

I know you're somewhat of an SELinux guru.  In order to learn to
properly implement SELinux, what are the best books/resources?  I have
SELinux by Example from Prentice Hall (c. 2007).  Any other
recommendations?

David


On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> rootsh is your friend! http://sourceforge.net/projects/rootsh/
>
> Setup a simple script gogoroot that is called from sudo. It logs the
> sudo and creates the root shell environment. Now rootsh is on and
> associated with the user from the sudo call.
>
> Alternatively, selinux should be set to active and auditd should be
> running. Now even if an admin does the su - or even sudo su -, auditd
> tracks their REAL UID with each command.
>
> Sudo is for giving limited admin ability to people who are not trusted
> to be admins. There are other, better tools for logging admin
> transgressions than sudo. Any admin worth their gray beard can edit
> logs. auditd can log to a remote machine that records to an
> append-only drive. If auditd can't log anymore the system locks up.
> That way ALL actions are always logged.
>
> Corporate, audited, government body certified usually means "we use
> technology that's 10 years too late to solve problems yesterday." :-)
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Jerald Sheets <questy at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
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>>> Um. yeah. Like the poster "Peters Laws of the Sociopathic
>>> Obsessive-Compulsive" I'm afraid to ever let a shrink see this list as
>>> well.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I saw that article, Jim.  The guy lost all credibility on point #1 alone.  In a corporate, audited, governing-body certified environment, you should NEVER not use sudo.  (with full logging).
>>
>> I have been in environments where we had to go look up the root pw when a vendor product refused to honor sudo, but aside from that, 97+ % of what you do can (and should) be managed via sudo.  Anything else is pure laziness.
>>
>> If you don't impose those guidelines on yourself, SAS70, ITIL, ISO, or some other body will.
>>
>> #!/jerald
>> Linux User #183003
>> Ubuntu User #32648
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