[ale] SUSE package manager and install empathy

Jim Lynch ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com
Mon Feb 14 21:06:00 EST 2011


David Tomaschik wrote:
> I have no experience with SLED, but I do admin
> RHEL/CentOS/Debian/Ubuntu and I much prefer apt.  (It's really, from
> an admin standpoint, apt vs yum.)  To me, apt is faster, has a smaller
> footprint, and is easier to configure.
>
> I think it's all about opinion.  Some people say that rpm doesn't do
> as well at dependency resolution, leading to dependency nightmares,
> but to be honest, I think that as of recent distributions, that's no
> longer an issue.  They've both become more advanced over time, and the
> packaging tools have improved.
>   
I have to say that's been my experience.  I gave up on rpm based systems 
early on because of the dependency hell.   I've since been reintroduced 
somewhat forceable (read $$$) to the likes of Centos and to a small 
degree SUSE and found yum and yast seems to have solved the problems to 
a great degree.  So it's not quite as much of an issue.  I will say that 
Ubuntu does seem to have more packages that I'm interested in available 
in the normal distros.  Dag has improved rpm distros immensely. 

It's still my experience working with .deb is easier than .rpm.

Jim.
> David
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>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Narahari 'n' Savitha
> <savithari at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> This leads me to ask general question, why do people say that rpm is bad but
>> .debs are better ?
>>
>> In what way is rpm better/worse than .deb ?
>> Also why is Arch Linux not that famous ?
>>
>> I hope I have not opened pandoras box.
>>
>> -Narahari
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:04 PM, James Sumners <james.sumners at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>     
>>> It's an RPM distro. Which means, despite it being otherwise great,
>>> it's an abhorrent nightmare to deal with.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2011, Narahari 'n' Savitha <savithari at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> I have SLED.  It is what I have to use.  The way I understand from the
>>>> pics I sent, system is looking for an ent. cd instead of going online to
>>>> look for the packages.
>>>>
>>>> I just want to tell SLED, that instead of CD go to the gatech or novell
>>>> site (since I am using ent and not open suse).
>>>>
>>>> One more thing, is SLED close to Redhat in terms of package aka rpm's or
>>>> close to .deb's.
>>>>
>>>> Like if a software can be installed on Redhat (in my case MyEclipse) can
>>>> it be instaled on SLED ?  What do I need to do for this to work right ?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your time and attention.
>>>>
>>>> -Narahari
>>>>         
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