[ale] finding printer connected to wireless router
Jim Philips
briarpatch.jim at gmail.com
Thu Dec 22 08:00:59 EST 2011
I believe Geoffrey is right in thinking this is some kind of Windows
only thing. At any rate, the CUPS browser interface hasn't been any
more useful in getting connected. I tried configuring the printer
there a thousand different ways. All I ever got was "The printer is
busy". I have tried to discover the IP address of the printer itself,
but don't yet see a way to do this. If there is a good method for
this, I would love to hear about it.
It's not all bad news. I bought a wireless dongle to use on an old
Linux box and found that it was supported right out of the box.
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>> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:41:31 -0500
>> From: "Derek Atkins" <derek at ihtfp.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ale] finding printer connected to wireless router
>> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
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>> Did you try to set it up as a windows shared printer?
>>
>> -derek
>
> Yes. It is set up to be a shared printer under Windows. But this is a
> dual-boot machine. When Linux is running, Windows isn't. Does that
> make a difference?
>
>>
>> On Tue, December 20, 2011 11:09 am, Jim Philips wrote:
>>> I just bought a Belkin N600 wireless router. It allows you to connect
>>> your printer to the router via USB cable. I can print to this printer
>>> in Windows. But in Linux, I have one problem after another. This is in
>>> Linux Mint 12. If I try CUPS, it never sees a printer at the IP
>>> address of the router. If I create the printer anyway and use the IP
>>> address, plus port, like so: 192.168.2.1:9100. The printer appears to
>>> get installed. But if I try to print anything, CUPS just says "the
>>> printer is busy". If I try using the standard printer setup tools in
>>> Gnome, I'm immediately greeted by this message:
>>>
>>> "FirewallD is not running..."
>>>
>>> And a notice about needing mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client
>>> enabled on the firewall. Extensive googling hasn't found anybody who
>>> got past this issue. I don't even know if it's ?*the* issue preventing
>>> my printer from being seen on the network. But all available tools
>>> fail to show anything connected to the router. I don't know where to
>>> turn. Please let me know if fellow ALErs have figures this out before.
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> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:41:26 -0500
> From: Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] finding printer connected to wireless router
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
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> this really sounds like a windows-only printer share device to me.
>
> Try installing the missing client tools (samba-client, ipp, etc) on your
> linux machine and then treat the printer as a windows shared printer (i.e.
> it's shared out by a windows machine that it's USB connected to).
>
> You can also try using the IPP ports with the IP address instead of the
> jet-direct port.
>
> Lastly, I've had decent success setting up a problem printer (not like this
> one) using the browser cups client when the distro printer config tools
> fail me.
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Jim Philips <briarpatch.jim at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I just bought a Belkin N600 wireless router. It allows you to connect
>> your printer to the router via USB cable. I can print to this printer
>> in Windows. But in Linux, I have one problem after another. This is in
>> Linux Mint 12. If I try CUPS, it never sees a printer at the IP
>> address of the router. If I create the printer anyway and use the IP
>> address, plus port, like so: 192.168.2.1:9100. The printer appears to
>> get installed. But if I try to print anything, CUPS just says "the
>> printer is busy". If I try using the standard printer setup tools in
>> Gnome, I'm immediately greeted by this message:
>>
>> "FirewallD is not running..."
>>
>> And a notice about needing mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client
>> enabled on the firewall. Extensive googling hasn't found anybody who
>> got past this issue. I don't even know if it's *the* issue preventing
>> my printer from being seen on the network. But all available tools
>> fail to show anything connected to the router. I don't know where to
>> turn. Please let me know if fellow ALErs have figures this out before.
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> From: Geoffrey Myers <lists at serioustechnology.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] finding printer connected to wireless router
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> Jim Kinney wrote:
>> this really sounds like a windows-only printer share device to me.
>>
>> Try installing the missing client tools (samba-client, ipp, etc) on your
>> linux machine and then treat the printer as a windows shared printer
>> (i.e. it's shared out by a windows machine that it's USB connected to).
>
> As I read it, the printer connects directly to the router. I would
> expect that it should be provided an IP there. Jim, are you sure you're
> pointing your linux at the printer IP and not the router IP?
>
> Just thinking out loud.
>
>>
>> You can also try using the IPP ports with the IP address instead of the
>> jet-direct port.
>>
>> Lastly, I've had decent success setting up a problem printer (not like
>> this one) using the browser cups client when the distro printer config
>> tools fail me.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Jim Philips <briarpatch.jim at gmail.com
>> <mailto:briarpatch.jim at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I just bought a Belkin N600 wireless router. It allows you to connect
>> your printer to the router via USB cable. I can print to this printer
>> in Windows. But in Linux, I have one problem after another. This is in
>> Linux Mint 12. If I try CUPS, it never sees a printer at the IP
>> address of the router. If I create the printer anyway and use the IP
>> address, plus port, like so: 192.168.2.1:9100
>> <http://192.168.2.1:9100>. The printer appears to
>> get installed. But if I try to print anything, CUPS just says "the
>> printer is busy". If I try using the standard printer setup tools in
>> Gnome, I'm immediately greeted by this message:
>>
>> "FirewallD is not running..."
>>
>> And a notice about needing mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client
>> enabled on the firewall. Extensive googling hasn't found anybody who
>> got past this issue. I don't even know if it's *the* issue preventing
>> my printer from being seen on the network. But all available tools
>> fail to show anything connected to the router. I don't know where to
>> turn. Please let me know if fellow ALErs have figures this out before.
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>> consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
>> they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the outcome.
>> - ////2011 Noam Chomsky
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> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:14:13 -0500
> From: Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] finding printer connected to wireless router
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
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> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Geoffrey Myers <lists at serioustechnology.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Jim Kinney wrote:
>> > this really sounds like a windows-only printer share device to me.
>> >
>> > Try installing the missing client tools (samba-client, ipp, etc) on your
>> > linux machine and then treat the printer as a windows shared printer
>> > (i.e. it's shared out by a windows machine that it's USB connected to).
>>
>> As I read it, the printer connects directly to the router. I would
>> expect that it should be provided an IP there. Jim, are you sure you're
>> pointing your linux at the printer IP and not the router IP?
>>
>
> It will likely be the router IP as that is the device providing the
> access/USB connection.
>
>>
>> Just thinking out loud.
>>
>> >
>> > You can also try using the IPP ports with the IP address instead of the
>> > jet-direct port.
>> >
>> > Lastly, I've had decent success setting up a problem printer (not like
>> > this one) using the browser cups client when the distro printer config
>> > tools fail me.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Jim Philips <briarpatch.jim at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:briarpatch.jim at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I just bought a Belkin N600 wireless router. It allows you to connect
>> > your printer to the router via USB cable. I can print to this printer
>> > in Windows. But in Linux, I have one problem after another. This is
>> in
>> > Linux Mint 12. If I try CUPS, it never sees a printer at the IP
>> > address of the router. If I create the printer anyway and use the IP
>> > address, plus port, like so: 192.168.2.1:9100
>> > <http://192.168.2.1:9100>. The printer appears to
>> > get installed. But if I try to print anything, CUPS just says "the
>> > printer is busy". If I try using the standard printer setup tools in
>> > Gnome, I'm immediately greeted by this message:
>> >
>> > "FirewallD is not running..."
>> >
>> > And a notice about needing mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client
>> > enabled on the firewall. Extensive googling hasn't found anybody who
>> > got past this issue. I don't even know if it's *the* issue
>> preventing
>> > my printer from being seen on the network. But all available tools
>> > fail to show anything connected to the router. I don't know where to
>> > turn. Please let me know if fellow ALErs have figures this out
>> before.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Ale mailing list
>> > Ale at ale.org <mailto:Ale at ale.org>
>> > http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
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>> > http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
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>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > --
>> > James P. Kinney III
>> >
>> > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
>> > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
>> > they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the
>> outcome.
>> > - ////2011 Noam Chomsky
>> >
>> > http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
>> > ////
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> From: Geoffrey Myers <lists at serioustechnology.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] finding printer connected to wireless router
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> Jim Kinney wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Geoffrey Myers
>> <lists at serioustechnology.com <mailto:lists at serioustechnology.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Jim Kinney wrote:
>> > this really sounds like a windows-only printer share device to me.
>> >
>> > Try installing the missing client tools (samba-client, ipp, etc)
>> on your
>> > linux machine and then treat the printer as a windows shared printer
>> > (i.e. it's shared out by a windows machine that it's USB
>> connected to).
>>
>> As I read it, the printer connects directly to the router. I would
>> expect that it should be provided an IP there. Jim, are you sure you're
>> pointing your linux at the printer IP and not the router IP?
>>
>>
>> It will likely be the router IP as that is the device providing the
>> access/USB connection.
>
> I'm thinking it would work like the device I have that has an ethernet
> and usb port. Plug the printer into the usb, the ethernet to the router
> and that little device get's it's own ip.
>
>>
>>
>> Just thinking out loud.
>>
>> >
>> > You can also try using the IPP ports with the IP address instead
>> of the
>> > jet-direct port.
>> >
>> > Lastly, I've had decent success setting up a problem printer (not
>> like
>> > this one) using the browser cups client when the distro printer
>> config
>> > tools fail me.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Jim Philips
>> <briarpatch.jim at gmail.com <mailto:briarpatch.jim at gmail.com>
>> > <mailto:briarpatch.jim at gmail.com
>> <mailto:briarpatch.jim at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I just bought a Belkin N600 wireless router. It allows you to
>> connect
>> > your printer to the router via USB cable. I can print to this
>> printer
>> > in Windows. But in Linux, I have one problem after another.
>> This is in
>> > Linux Mint 12. If I try CUPS, it never sees a printer at the IP
>> > address of the router. If I create the printer anyway and use
>> the IP
>> > address, plus port, like so: 192.168.2.1:9100
>> <http://192.168.2.1:9100>
>> > <http://192.168.2.1:9100>. The printer appears to
>> > get installed. But if I try to print anything, CUPS just says
>> "the
>> > printer is busy". If I try using the standard printer setup
>> tools in
>> > Gnome, I'm immediately greeted by this message:
>> >
>> > "FirewallD is not running..."
>> >
>> > And a notice about needing mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client
>> > enabled on the firewall. Extensive googling hasn't found
>> anybody who
>> > got past this issue. I don't even know if it's *the* issue
>> preventing
>> > my printer from being seen on the network. But all available
>> tools
>> > fail to show anything connected to the router. I don't know
>> where to
>> > turn. Please let me know if fellow ALErs have figures this
>> out before.
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> >
>> > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
>> > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
>> > they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate
>> the outcome.
>> > - ////2011 Noam Chomsky
>> >
>> > http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
>> > ////
>> >
>> >
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>>
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>> the pretense of taking care of them."
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>> As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
>> consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as
>> they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the outcome.
>> - ////2011 Noam Chomsky
>>
>> http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
>> ////
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