[ale] [ALE-jobs] Fwd: Urgent Job Opening for LinuxAdministratorin Alpharetta, GA

[Lightner, Jeff]

It's a little of both.  

A lot of companies like the contractor to perm because they don't have to "fire" you at the end of the evaluation period - they can simply "not renew" your contract and "not convert" you to permanent.   Typically this avoids the risk of various legal actions a "permanent" employee could take against an employer that "fired" them even though they did so in a "probationary" period.

Agencies like contracts because they can bill for you the whole time you are working for them.   If you are converted there is typically a fee for their trouble in locating you.   For me I came in contract to perm at current job and it was only supposed to be 3 months contract but it took more than 4 the paperwork to get done here.   At one point contract to perm was required here but the last I heard is they don't want contract to perm any more.

There's no hard and fast rule.  I worked at one major telecom that one day fired all its contractors and kept only its permanent employees.   An ex-coworker who'd gone to work as a contractor at another major telecom one day called to tell me they had fired all their permanent employees and kept only contractors.   Different companies - different philosophies.   

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Payne
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:36 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: Re: [ale] [ALE-jobs] Fwd: Urgent Job Opening for LinuxAdministratorin Alpharetta, GA

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Jerald Sheets <questy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mar 26, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
>
>>
>>  Even in that market whenever we got resumes of people that had more than 2 jobs in the last 2 years we'd pass on them.  It was usually a sign they were job hopping for bigger and bigger payouts.  I had changed jobs once and nearly doubled my salary within a year of changing but that was still only 2 jobs in a span of several years.   It's one thing to take an opportunity when it comes your way but quite another to job hop.  I recall the resume of one person who'd had 6 jobs in the last 2 years - we didn't even bother to interview him.  Once the bust hit, people like that had a very hard time finding permanent gigs anywhere.
>
>
> Problem with that scenario in a bust-type situation is that you can be thrown around by employers very quickly.
>
> Take my situation, for instance.  I was in Baton Rouge and got laid off the week before Christmas '99.  I grabbed a quick DSL installer gig to make ends meet so my kids could have a Christmas.  By March, I realized this wouldn't work, so I got on with 3Com and moved to DC. By January of the next year I was laid off.  I went to Thompson for a few months, but my wife's medical condition was worsening so I went on back home to a job in a hospital.  2 1/2 years, 5 jobs.  None really my fault, the fault of a worsening economy.
>
> I don't usually dismiss a resume "out of hand" without looking at it.  When evaluating someone, I take into account their time at a position, what they were doing, the economic climate surrounding the time where they may have changed jobs a bit, etc.
>
> I read a statistic in a paper on HR issues that the average professional today in Tech will hold a position for 1.7 - 2.4 years, and can have as many as 16 professional positions in their lifetime.
>
> Try fitting that all on the "one page resume" your guidance counsellor told you was a must to have.
>
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> I'm not really buying it any more.  If the person is a good worker and they have project work to show for their time and have changed jobs a couple times in a period like 2000-2002 or 2008-2010, I'm willing to look at them.
>
> --j
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Since my job is moving to another state, I have started looking, is it
true, that most companies only hire contractor to perm, or is how this
companies make their money?

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