[ale] [OT] dsl throughput

Richard Bronosky Richard at Bronosky.com
Wed Mar 10 21:22:51 EST 2010


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On 3/10/10, Tim Watts <timtw at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation Keith. And Jeff, for the explanation of the
> explanation.
>
> Getting ready to finally dump earthstink for nexis. Since ATT provides
> my phone I don't think I'm likely to see a downturn in throughput. But
> if reports are accurate I should see a definite upturn in customer
> service for about the same price.
>
> The biggest pain is identifying all the people, lists, sites & services
> that occasionally email me and I want to notify (or not). Seems like any
> public email provider ought to provide a 'change of address' service
> like the post office where for 3 months or so they'll forward email to
> you with an offer to notify the sender of the change (or at least a
> reminder to get it done).
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 17:32 -0500, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
>> ILEC = Incumbent Local Exchange Carrier = the folks that own the phone
>> lines in your area e.g. BellSouth (AT&T) for most of Atlanta Metro.
>>
>> CLEC = Competitive Local Exchange Carrier = People that use those
>> phone lines but sell service to you.  (Somewhat the way Atlanta Gas
>> Light owns all the gas pipes but you can buy from SCANA, GNG or
>> others.)
>>
>> The theory was it would be competitive like long distance was
>> previously so you'd end up paying a lot less for home phone service.
>> The (alleged) practice is that ILECs put so many hurdles in front of
>> CLECs and delayed their orders so long that it isn't economical for
>> general phone service.  Most CLECs gave up on residential service and
>> focused on business.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
>> Dennis Ruzeski
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:59 PM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> Subject: Re: [ale] [OT] dsl throughput
>>
>> Funny that with the whirlwind of acronyns flying around that response,
>> the only one you chose to define was CO.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:45 PM,  <krwatson at cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
>> Tim
>> >> Watts
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 13:50
>> >> To: ale at ale.org
>> >> Subject: [ale] [OT] dsl throughput
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Quick question: Is changing my dsl provider likely to change my
>> >> throughput? I suspect not since my distance from the CO isn't
>> changing.
>> >> Just want to know if there are other variables I'm not considering.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >
>> > Maybe. Lets say you are using a CLEC and they are connecting you
>> 10,000 feet back to the CO (central office) and you change to ILECs
>> DSL. The ILEC has a DSLAM 1,000 feet from your house and that is what
>> they connect you to instead of the CO. You would potentially get
>> better bandwidth.
>> >
>> > By law ILECs have to share the resources in the CO with the CLECs
>> but they are not required to share the DSLAM. I have also seen it the
>> other way around where the CLEC provides better bandwidth because they
>> installed a DLSAM and the ILEC can't give you DSL at all because
>> you're to far from the CO.
>> >
>> > It used to be that all the vendors used to use the same database to
>> determine your distance from the CO so they would tell you on the web
>> page you weren't eligible but if you called an engineer he would look
>> it up in his database and it would tell him that there was a DSLAM
>> within range. I haven't ordered DSL in many years so I don't know if
>> it has gotten any better.
>> >
>> > keith
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Keith R. Watson                        Georgia Institute of
>> Technology
>> > Systems Support Specialist IV          College of Computing
>> > keith.watson at cc.gatech.edu             801 Atlantic Drive NW
>> > (404) 385-7401                         Atlanta, GA  30332-0280
>> >
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