[ale] IBM to buy SUN?

Jerald Sheets questy at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 10:50:11 EDT 2009


I don't think AIX would be dumped any time soon.

They have a LOT of things built in for government clients (like triple
authentication and such) that were built specifically for agencies that I
can guarantee you won't be changing any time soon.  (although I can't tell
you why)  ;)


Also, think about the medical market.  Generally speaking, the medical
market does AIX for mid-range and HP for lower-end.  (superdome
notwithstanding).  Most off the big guys out there (Cerner, Lawson,
McKesson) generally support AIX & HP and only grudgingly support Solaris
(unless that changed within the last 4 years or so.  I left healthcare in
2005)

>From a personal preferences perspective, I like AIX over Solaris because it
was my first commercial UNIX, my first UNIX classes, my first consulting
UNIX, and then Redhat followed close behind.  (I had used Slack previously)
Right as I stopped using AIX, they were at 5.2L and had a very nice method
of handling the FOSS stuff.  Add Bull Freeware and UWA to that, and you've
got a nice set of tools.  Anything you don't have, though, just go to the
LInux world and roll your own.

>From what I saw in my time at The Weather Channel, you should be able to
build much more resilient hardware solutions for serving of enterprise apps
over Linux/Oracle or Linux/Mysql (clustered or replicated) {Hi Sid!} that
can handle MUCH more capacity and processing need than you can get with
standard mid-range gear.  (since I'm from an IBM background, I think S70,
S80, P690, etc. when I say that)

There is *nothing* in the medical space that requires the IBM or HP or Sun
gear, but the medical establishment is doing "one source purchasing" and
wants things with contracts and maintenance and frankly, the Cerners and
Lawsons of the world aren't yet going toward Linux in a big way yet, only
(from what I've heard) is McKesson trying to get into some of that.

If I had my druthers, I'd rather keep AIX, but like vi vs emacs, that's an
argument that'll be around a lot longer than either of those OSes will be in
their current respective forms.

--j



On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Jeff Lightner <jlightner at water.com> wrote:

> We have two SCO boxes here but they are running in Legacy mode.  On one
> I don't think anyone but me has logged in for the last 4+ years and the
> other one they've told me I can decommission.
>
> It's a shame.  SCO UNIX (especially after 3.2.4.2) was a rather good
> UNIX implementation for PCs.   Part of its beauty was they only sold the
> OS so worked hard to insure they worked on a variety of hardware.  The
> evil powers that later took them over and pretended they owned Linux
> source code gave them a really bad name.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Harrison
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:02 AM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] IBM to buy SUN?
>
> > On a related note, it appears that another UNIX OS will eventually
> join
> > SCO in the tarpit.  Killed by linux?  I can't see IBM keeping both AIX
>
> > and Solaris.
>
> At least I actually know people who use AIX and Solaris in production at
>
> real businesses. I haven't seen a SCO machine in a while.. Except for
> one
> running a local medical practice (green screens on serial terms).
> Their "upgrade" is RedHat and a web browser interface.
>
> I even did some DB2 on Linux a few years ago, ran well
> and there are lots of weird custom business things that
> use it, love it.
>
> I'll contend IBM will support them as long as there are paying
> customers.
> Maybe they will merge the two into a new future OS: SolarAIX,
> SlowlarAIX..
> SIX, SAIX .. the possible acronomyms are endless..
>
> Overall, it might be a good thing for the FOSS community if they
> continue
> their combined support for it.
>
>
>
>
>
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