[ale] Xen - further OT

Tue Jun 23 15:52:55 EDT 2009

yup. Russian team was shocked.  It was very inconsiderable of Borland to do
that.  Obviously, they were just thinking money, not people.

Yup, having worked 6 years with India myself, I know all about it.

-- Asher

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Jeff Lightner <jlightner at water.com> wrote:

> Maybe but imagine if you'd been an American stranded in Russia instead.
>
> Having worked and traveled outside the US has made me appreciate what we
> have here a lot more.
>
> One of my prior employers got miffed at me when I put a 5 week limit on a
> "temporary" install trip to India and made them put it in the documentation
> that if 5 weeks wasn't sufficient they HAD to fly in a new team.   Sure
> enough at the end of 4 weeks they "suggested" they might need to keep us
> longer at which point I reminded them of the condition.
>
> That condition by the way was insisted upon because an installation team at
> the employer before hadn't gotten stuck in Kapalua Hawaii for more than 6
> months on a "2 week install trip".  Being stuck in Hawaii doesn't sound like
> such a bad thing but having worked in the Caribbean I can tell you working
> in paradise and vacationing there are NOT the same.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> Kinney
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:30 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> Subject: Re: [ale] Xen
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Asher Vilensky<ashervilensky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > It's funny to me to read "Borland" and "smart" in the same sentence.  At
> the
> > time, they brought an entire dev team from Russia to Atlanta - only to
> lay
> > everybody off a month or two later.  Saw it with my own two eyes.
>
> That sucks! It's bad enough getting laid off. Really bad getting
> relocated then laid off. But relocated to another freaking side of the
> globe and THEN laid off....
>
> That sucks big time.
>
> welcome to 'merica....
> >
> > -- Asher Vilensky
> >   ashervilensky at gmail.com
> >   Home: 404-377-8434
> >   Cell: 404 452 8642
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Jeff Lightner <jlightner at water.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If they'd been smart they'd have done what Borland did after they bought
> >> dBaseII way back when and already owned Paradox.  They'd just issue
> updates
> >> to both products so they were exactly alike.  Doing it this way just
> annoys
> >> your install base who say to themselves:  "If I've got to migrate why
> >> migrate to something these putzes make - might as well do something
> else."
> >> Then again many vendors will create a "migration path" before dumping
> stuff.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> Brian
> >> Pitts
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:28 AM
> >> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> >> Subject: Re: [ale] Xen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/23/2009 07:49 AM, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> >>
> >> Right but it goes on to say they're folding it into their own Oracle VM
> >> and that both were based on Xen.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Since I never heard of Virtual Iron before I can't say much about it.
>  If
> >> it was Open Source then they can only quit supporting it themselves
> without
> >> killing it.   However, I wonder if the reason it is being killed isn't
> >> because no one ever heard of it and it had an uphill battle against
> VMWare,
> >> Xen and other options.
> >>
> >> This thread was started by Jim posting old news about Oracle buying
> >> Virtual Iron. It turned out that within a month of buying them, Oracle
> fired
> >> almost everyone and discontinued the project. It seems like a rather
> >> expensive way to get more customers for your own product.
> >>
> >> I am pretty curious to see what happens in the Sun xVM v Oracle VM
> fight.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >> Brian Pitts
> >>
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