[ale] Ale Digest, Vol 12, Issue 45

Brian nym.bnm at gmail.com
Thu Jan 15 16:20:59 EST 2009


I have been trying to get some space here at GGC again, but they are
still having problems with allocating me some space.  Should the
meetings be brought back soon, I will be moving them to the first
Tuesday night of each month.  The move away from Thursdays is due to
class scheduling (mine, not GGC).

That or if someone has the inclination, the time, and most importantly
the space, they can restart the meetings, and I'll withdraw as
coordinator.

Brian MacLeod


2009/1/15 Fr. Michael A. St. Clair <Michael.St.Clair at nsc.com>:
> Does anyone have any information on the ALE NE meetings coming back?
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Centos/Apache (Terry Bailey)
>    2. Re: Centos/Apache (Jim Kinney)
>    3. Re: Ubuntu forums are hosed (Nick Ali)
>    4. linux screen saver (John G. Heim)
>    5. Re: linux screen saver (Geoffrey)
>    6. Re: linux screen saver (Brian Pitts)
>    7. Re: linux screen saver (Michael B. Trausch)
>    8. Re: ssh -R (was Re:  Have I been hacked?) (Ken Ratliff)
>    9. ALE CENTRAL MTG for Thursday, Jan. 15, 2009,      7:30pm (Fedora
>       10 Kicks Ubuntu uButtto) (aaron)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:01:00 -0500
> From: Terry Bailey <terry at bitlinx.com>
> Subject: [ale] Centos/Apache
> To: ale at ale.org
> Message-ID: <200901141701.n0EH10FQ027076 at mail.ale.org>
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> Hi,
>
> I will load Centos onto a dual core Xenon with 4 gigs of RAM.  If all
> the modules are loaded when I gen the system, will that slow down apache?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Terry Bailey
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:05:21 -0500
> From: Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] Centos/Apache
> To: ale at ale.org
> Message-ID:
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> everything running requires resources. To maximize performance,
> minimize the number of running processes.
>
> If you don't need it, don't start it. Apache modules can be turned on
> and off in the conf file. Modules turned off will not be loaded when
> apache starts. Modules turned on will be loaded even if they are never
> used.
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Terry Bailey <terry at bitlinx.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I will load Centos onto a dual core Xenon with 4 gigs of RAM.  If all
>> the modules are loaded when I gen the system, will that slow down apache?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Terry Bailey
>>
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> --
> --
> James P. Kinney III
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:05:58 -0500
> From: "Nick Ali" <nali at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] Ubuntu forums are hosed
> To: ale at ale.org
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> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jim Lynch
> <ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com> wrote:
>> Anyone know what's up with Ubuntuforums.org?  It's been in various
>> stages of DOWN for about 24 hours.  No news on ubuntu.com.
>
> If you still want to know what happened:
> http://moxiefoxtrot.com/2009/01/14/recent-ubuntuforums-downtime/
>
> nick
>
> --
>
> http://boredandblogging.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:30:56 -0600
> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> Subject: [ale] linux screen saver
> To: <ale at ale.org>
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> I cannot figure out how to get a linux screen saver to start at the gnome
> login prompt.
>
> We rundebian linux and I've discovered that by default, it turns on a screen
> saver that requires the user to re-enter a password if the console is idle
> long enough. But I need the screen to go blank if nobody logs in for 5 or 10
> minutes. Googling showed me lots of ways to configure a screen saver for a
> user but that' means it would work only after a user logs in.
>
> I'm sorry I'm kind of ignorant of gnome & gdm. I'm blind and I have only
> used the GUI a few times. I'm trying to learn how to use it with the new-ish
> screen reader for gnome, orca. But I have a long way to go.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:46:48 -0500
> From: Geoffrey <lists at serioustechnology.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] linux screen saver
> To: ale at ale.org
> Message-ID: <496E5D48.2020708 at serioustechnology.com>
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> John G. Heim wrote:
>> I cannot figure out how to get a linux screen saver to start at the gnome
>> login prompt.
>>
>> We rundebian linux and I've discovered that by default, it turns on a
>> screen
>> saver that requires the user to re-enter a password if the console is idle
>> long enough. But I need the screen to go blank if nobody logs in for 5 or
>> 10
>> minutes. Googling showed me lots of ways to configure a screen saver for a
>> user but that' means it would work only after a user logs in.
>>
>> I'm sorry I'm kind of ignorant of gnome & gdm. I'm blind and I have only
>> used the GUI a few times. I'm trying to learn how to use it with the
>> new-ish
>> screen reader for gnome, orca. But I have a long way to go.
>
> So you're trying to have the screensaver running before anyone logs in?
>   I'm not sure I understand the purpose.
>
> --
> Until later, Geoffrey
>
> Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
>   - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:55:48 -0500
> From: Brian Pitts <brian at polibyte.com>
> Subject: Re: [ale] linux screen saver
> To: ale at ale.org
> Message-ID: <1231970148.27925.9.camel at square>
> Content-Type: text/plain
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> On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:30 -0600, John G. Heim wrote:
>
>> We rundebian linux and I've discovered that by default, it turns on a
>> screen
>> saver that requires the user to re-enter a password if the console is idle
>> long enough. But I need the screen to go blank if nobody logs in for 5 or
>> 10
>> minutes.
>
> Do you really want a screensaver, or do you want the monitor to suspend
> for power-saving purposes?
>
> -Brian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:57:45 -0500
> From: "Michael B. Trausch" <mike at trausch.us>
> Subject: Re: [ale] linux screen saver
> To: ale at ale.org
> Message-ID: <20090114165745.0f283376 at zest>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:30:56 -0600
> "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
>> We rundebian linux and I've discovered that by default, it turns on a
>> screen saver that requires the user to re-enter a password if the
>> console is idle long enough. But I need the screen to go blank if
>> nobody logs in for 5 or 10 minutes. Googling showed me lots of ways
>> to configure a screen saver for a user but that' means it would work
>> only after a user logs in.
>
> I am not sure how you would implement that at present without some
> programming.  However, I could be wrong:  A *lot* of new functionality
> has come to GNOME-based systems in recent times, and something like
> this may already exist there that I am not aware of and cannot find.
>
> That said, I think that the best way to go about this would be (if you
> have some programming skill) implementing some additional functionality
> to do just this.  There are a few ways to go about it:
>
>   * Implement some system-wide program that will automatically be run
>     every time someone starts a GNOME session, watching for inactivity
>     and kicking off the Fast User Switching functionality in GNOME
>     after a set time-out,
>   * Implement some system-wide program that will automatically be run
>     every time someone starts a GNOME session, watching for inactivity,
>     letting the screen saver come on, and then kicking off the Fast
>     User Switching functionality in GNOME, when there is activity after
>     a specified amount of inactivity (this mimics the way Windows XP
>     Professional seems to work by default),
>   * Or implement something with either of the above points, within the
>     gnome-screensaver software itself, and using GConf to store its
>     configuration data so that the system administrator can implement
>     *some* required functionality in a system (e.g., maximum timeout
>     for the screensaver which would be implementing the feature to
>     begin with).
>
> I don't know how hard any of those would be, but I would imagine not
> terribly hard if you are already a C programmer.  I can't seem to find
> any indication that a similar feature has been requested in GNOME or
> that it has already been implemented, so I am fairly sure that someone
> will have to write it.
>
>> I'm sorry I'm kind of ignorant of gnome & gdm. I'm blind and I have
>> only used the GUI a few times. I'm trying to learn how to use it with
>> the new-ish screen reader for gnome, orca. But I have a long way to
>> go.
>
> I can only assume that Orca has improved quite a bit since the last
> time I checked it out.  I was looking into screen-readers some time
> ago, and Orca used to crash quite a lot; the screen reading extensions
> for GNU Emacs are (from what I have been told) quite a lot better and
> I knew one person that used that exclusively (I guess Emacs really is
> an operating system!).  Good luck on Orca.  :)
>
>         --- Mike
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:17:30 -0500
> From: Ken Ratliff <forsaken at targaryen.us>
> Subject: Re: [ale] ssh -R (was Re:  Have I been hacked?)
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> On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Chris Kleeschulte wrote:
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>> http://kleeschulte.blogspot.com/2007/09/how-to-create-reverse-ssh-tunnel.html
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> Thank you, I can find a few uses for this.
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> From: aaron <aaron at pd.org>
> Subject: [ale] ALE CENTRAL MTG for Thursday, Jan. 15, 2009,     7:30pm
>         (Fedora 10 Kicks Ubuntu uButtto)
> To: ALE <ale at ale.org>
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> :-)
> If we judge by the latest issue of  Linux Format magazine,
> whose last two cover disk distros were Ubuntu 8.10 and
> Fedora 10 respectively, this month's ALE Central meeting
> could get a little rough [re attached jpg].
> :-)
>
> Here's a reminder about tomorrows ALE cage ma ...
> er... meeting details:
>
> ===
> Our feature presentation for the
> ALE Central Meeting on Thursday,
> January 15, 2009, 7:30pm, will be
>
> "Fedora 10: Looking at Features,
> Fixing the Flaws, and Planning the Future"
>
> presented by David Nalley,
> Regional Fedora Ambassador
>
> Synopsis:
> ? This talk will be a casual exploration of, and an open
> dialog about, the many new design and package features
> found in Fedora 10, the latest release of the Linux community
> development distribution from which Red Hat Enterprise
> Linux is derived. Supporting the goal of continuing to improve
> Linux tools for the future, any audience questions, comments,
> critiques or observations regarding Fedora Linux will be
> welcome and encouraged.
>
> Bio:
> ? David Nalley is a Linux Sysadmim, a Fedora Developer
> and the Regional Fedora Ambassador for the South Eastern
> U.S. working out of Greenville, South Carolina. David travels
> frequently to technology events throughout the region to
> promote Fedora Linux distributions specifically and the FLOSS
> philosophy in general. He recently journeyed to Atlanta for
> the Software Freedom Day & Linux Fest 2008 celebrations in
> September, where he graciously agreed to visit with ALE
> again once Fedora 10 was released.
>
>
> ============================
> The ALE meeting time frame is 7:30pm to ~9:30pm
> Directions to Emory Law School can be found at:
> < http://mail.ale.org/?page_id=2 >
> ============================
>
> As always, these details are available at the ALE.org
> web site.  And apologies  for being a little tardy getting
> this posted, but I've been busy on the road the past
> week and a half.
>
> peace
> Aaron Ruscetta
> ALE Event Coordinator
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