[ale] OT: top-posting

Jeff Lightner jlightner at water.com
Wed Jan 7 16:38:13 EST 2009


Whereas I'd say its clueless dweebs that expect the world to do things
the ways THEY "think" is best and then insult those who don't.

Am I lazy - you bet!  One of the reasons I love computers is they let me
be lazy.  If I had to respond to you long hand and via snail mail you'd
probably never hear from me.   Of course then again you'd likely not
have written in the first place either.

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Geoffrey
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:42 PM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: top-posting

Jeff Lightner wrote:
> "customary"
> 
> There is no "customary" way to do it - simply someone's opinion they
are
> trying to assert as "customary".  I'd argue that far more people do
top
> posting than any other method so you might say top posting was
> "customary".

Far more people are clueless dweebs as well.

One of the best reasons for properly responding by interweaving 
responses, forces most folks to trim.  Lazy folks who top post will not 
trim anything and you end up with these huges top down threads.  Top 
posting simply forces you to read from the bottom up.

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> George L. Allen
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:52 AM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: top-posting
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 11:21:33AM -0500, Derrick Norris wrote:
>> The best posting method IMO especially when several people are 
>> contributing to a discussion is to embed comments into appropriate
> spots 
>> in the previous posts.  And of course the worst is when you have a
mix
> 
>> of top-posters and bottom-posters.
> 
> I think bottom-posting is best when you're replying to specifics
within
> a
> message. As Derrick mentioned above - as described by
> http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html --- "In addition to
> bottom-posting,
> it is customary to leave out non-relevant parts of the message with
> regard
> to the reply, and to put the reply directly beneath the quoted
relevant
> parts."
> 
> As I remember, this was the common usage on newsgroups - not to
include
> the
> entire previous message and 'bottom post,' but rather to bottom post
to
> specific parts, or to 'in-line' post. Then again, newsgroups all
nearly
> always read with a reader that knows how to thread messages sanely.
> 
> Outlook won't thread worth a flip - I much prefer mutt.
> 
> Anyway - I think most people now days just hit Reply and type, leaving
> the
> old message in its entirety rather than summarizing. This may be a
> result
> of mail-threading being broken on non *nix clients - or usage patterns
> developed by Outlook. Either way - when in Outlook - top posting is
fine
> -
> so I don't have to scroll.
> 
> When in mutt - either is fine - except if 'bottom-posting' I'd prefer
> the
> previous message is cut-down to quotes or summarized so I don't have
to
> scroll through 5 pages of text that I already saw in the last message
to
> hunt for a reply.
> 
> Bottom posting is probably better for discussion - newsgroups or
usenet,
> while
> topposting is quick-and-lazy for two-way conversation.
> 
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Until later, Geoffrey

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