[ale] Firefox Keeps Freezing After Flash Upgrade - OT

Jeff Lightner jlightner at water.com
Fri Oct 24 18:07:17 EDT 2008


Personally I don't understand folks that don't like top posting.  When
I'm reading emails in a thread I'm usually keeping up with them so would
prefer to read the "top post" in latest email than read through all the
stuff I'd already seen to get to it.   We can disagree on that and its
clear different people on the list do.

Top sigging, as you call it, is a completely different thing.  When I
saw (and didn't comment) the first time he did it the post looked like
its only intent was to proselytize but when I looked at the bottom I saw
that there was an actual response.

However, when he did it again it made it clear to me that the purpose in
"top sigging" was indeed to make it prominent and thereby proselytize
and I responded to that.

How would he (or you) feel if every post I made had a "top sig" of
"Allah Akbar" or "Satan is my Master"?  Or how would the conservatives
on the list feel if every post had a "top sig" of "W destroyed America"?


-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Geoffrey
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:13 PM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] Firefox Keeps Freezing After Flash Upgrade

Jeff Lightner wrote:
> Do we really need this proselytizing at the beginning of posts?

Lighten up, we see all kind of sigs fly through the list.  Since you're 
top posting, what's wrong with top 'sigging?'

> 
>  
> 
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> 
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Marc
> Ferguson
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:28 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] Firefox Keeps Freezing After Flash Upgrade
> 
>  
> 
> ---
> Marc F.
> 
> "..Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to
> come.." -Rev1:4
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Marc Ferguson
<marcferguson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> ---
> Marc F.
> 
> "..Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to
> come.." -Rev1:4
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Marc Ferguson
<marcferguson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Joey Rutledge <joey at joeyrutledge.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 	Marc Ferguson wrote, On 10/22/2008 06:12 AM:
> 
> 	> Hi Fellas,
> 	>
> 	> I need a bit of help with figuring out why my Firefox keeps
> crashing.
> 	> I did a "strace firefox" and the results are posted here:
> 	> http://rafb.net/p/G6lnpk54.html
> 	>
> 	> I originally wanted to figure out why Fedora's audio seemed to
> be
> 	> single-threaded.  I can play one audio device at a time.  If I
> had
> 	> Banshee playing, I could watch any YouTube videos (well I
> could, but
> 	> there would be no sound).  So; I asked someone from the
> #fedora IRC
> 	> and they told me to install "libflashsupport.i386" because
> Flash 9
> 	> doesn't support pulseaudio too well.  So; I installed it and
> it
> 	> worked.  Very soon after it played on Flash file, I tried to
> play
> 	> another and my browser froze.  Since then I've copied and
> pasted the
> 	> latest Flash 10.so into my firefox plugin's directory and the
> same
> 	> thing happens?
> 	>
> 	> I saw in the output (on line 67, 368, 369, etc) that it's
> referencing
> 	> my download folder for flash 10, why?
> 	>
> 	> ---
> 	> Marc F.
> 	>
> 	> "..Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who
> is to
> 	> come.." -Rev1:4
> 
> 	>
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> 	This seems really similar to an issue I had recently.  Depending
> on what
> 	version of Firefox you are using there is a known bug for
> version 3.0.1
> 	(maybe others?) and windowless mode SWF files.  For me my
> browser would
> 	crash anytime I went to a site that had flash ads, such as
> 	wunderground.com or cnn.com.
> 	
> 	I am not necessarily saying that your issue is the same but it
> might be
> 	worth an investigation.  Basically in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg (create
> it if
> 	you don't have one) you set "WindowlessDisable = 1"
> 	
> 	Here is the page that talks about the bug:
> 	
> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/08/windowless_mode_fix.html
> 	
> 	Joey
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> 
> Thanks Joey.  I'll give it a try when I get home today.
> 
>  
> 
> I didn't find that file on my system.  I then went to #fedora to ask
and
> they lead me to this site,
> http://fedorasolved.org/browser-solutions/flash/?searchterm=flash.  As
> of date I haven't fixed the problem yet and I'm even more confused now
> than ever.  All of this crashing happened after I installed
> "libflashsupport.i386".  Damn, I wish I didn't.  Is there a way to go
> back to status quo?  I already removed libflashsupport - how about my
> firefox config files?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> So; just to give an update.  I removed "flash-player" through my
package
> manager (flash version 10) and then installed it again.  My firefox
> still crashes, but it seems to crash only after I leave a site that
> flash was playing on.  Before; it would crash after playing 1 flash
> movie - now (for example: YouTube) I can watch multiple flash movies,
> but if I go to another web site it'll crash.
> 
> Is there a way to reset this craziness.  I've already uninstalled
> "libflashsupport", but that's where it all started going south!
Thanks
> for any help.
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