[ale] Intelligent Power (was global warming) [OT]

[Greg Freemyer]

You got it.

See http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil

Greg

2008/5/1 Jon Reagan <jreagan1990 at gmail.com>:
> waitaminute...
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> they're making diesel fuel out of turkey gizzards now?
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> Jon
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> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Thompson Freeman
> > <tfreeman at intel.digichem.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 03/10/2008 05:13:52 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> > >  > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Greg Freemyer
> > >  > <greg.freemyer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >  > >  Per: http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  In the long term, they can make Electrical generating
> > >  > quality crude
> > >  > >  oil for about $75 / barrel from biowaste. (iirc).
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  I have not followed the above oil production plant
> > >  > beyond reading that
> > >  > >  article, but it is describing an actual plant in full
> > >  > production and
> > >  > >  selling oil to the local electric company to generate
> > >  > electricity, not
> > >  > >  some totally pie-in-the-sky project that may be
> > >  > possible with a couple
> > >  > >  $B in investment.
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  The article I sited above is 2 years old.  If anyone
> > >  > has seen a more
> > >  > >  recent article, I would love to read it.
> > >  >
> > >  > Decided to see if I could find anything newer.
> > >  >
> > >  > Looks like the plant is now at full production.  200 tons
> > >  > of turkey
> > >  > guts / waste a day turned into biodiesel.  Not sure how
> > >  > efficient they
> > >  > are, but if all of the weight were turned into oil that
> > >  > would be about
> > >  > 50,000 gallons a day, or 1,000 barrels a day, or 350,000
> > >  > barrels a
> > >  > year.  Not huge, but not really an experiment either.
> > >  >
> > >  > Oklahoma is even sending them some really ugly fish guts
> > >  > to get rid of.
> > >  >
> > >  > The biggest problem is complaints about the odor.  Not
> > >  > sure how they
> > >  > know it is the oil producing plant and not the turkey
> > >  > processing plant
> > >  > next door.
> > >  >
> > >  > Next time they build one, maybe they will be smart enough
> > >  > to build it
> > >  > somewhere other than in the middle of town.
> > >  >
> > >  > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >  I have seen, and do not recall a link to, a listing of the
> > >  conversion rates of various materiel using the thermal
> > >  depolimerization process. I think I may have tracked it
> > >  down from Wikipedia, but don't hold me to that. You may be
> > >  Googling for a while.
> > >
> > >  That said, I think I read somewhere that there is a Georgia
> > >  project using the same technology against vegetation waste
> > >  (wood chips and such). Could be my imagination.
> >
> > I'm still very intrigued about the idea of making oil from renewable
> > sources.  No idea how this affects greenhouse gases, but it could
> > definitely help with the long term energy issue.
> >
> > Per this blurb that I just saw, that plant is making about 500 barrels
> > a day out of 250 tons of oval, so it is about 40% efficient.  Not bad
> > at all considering they are just starting with turkey guts, feathers,
> > etc.
> >
> > So at current prices that is over $50K / day of oil they are
> > producing.  That is $10 or $20 million / year.  If the earlier
> > articles were accurate then they are currently profitable.  Hopefully
> > they build some more plants around the country.
> >
> > ==
> > Changing World Technologies Inc. in West Hempstead, New York, has been
> > given the Most Innovative Patent Award in the Environment & Energy
> > category by the Long Island Technology Hall of Fame. Brian Appel,
> > chief executive officer of CWT, accepted the award at the hall of
> > fame's 2008 awards ceremony March 6. CWT's thermal conversion process
> > is a commercially viable method of reforming organic waste that
> > converts approximately 250 tons of turkey offal and fats per day into
> > approximately 500 barrels of renewable diesel.
> > ==
> >
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