[ale] OT: Bad Linspire....tsk tsk

[KingBahamut]

I happen to love to see Carmony (the CEO) quote in the forum thread linked
on distrowatch as saying

-- "We have what we call "express URL's" on our server, and one of these got
changed improperly, so some of you may have seen this. We fixed it. It
should go to freespire.org now."

and

"As for gaming DistroWatch, that wouldn't have worked because all the links
would have been coming from the same referring source, Linspire.com. We have
THOUSANDS of hits on that express URL every HOUR. IF that had in fact been
the case, we'd have shot WAY WAY WAY WAY up in the charts. We actually fell
yesterday, with an average of about 900 clicks. I'm sure DistroWatch has
been gamed plenty over the years and long since would have weeded out any
clicks from the same referring source, expecially when that source is the
company behind the distro."

Seems like hes just trying to pass the buck. I find it unlikely he didnt
know it was happening. Carmony's presence in the community (hes appeared up
and often in the Ubuntu community trying to push CNR). is pretty strong. I
have to believe he probably knew it was going on.


On 9/7/06, Jeff Lightner <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
>
>  These tactics are truly awwwwww linspiring?
>
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> *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of *
> KingBahamut
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:28 PM
> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> *Subject:* Re: [ale] OT: Bad Linspire....tsk tsk
>
>
>
> Sigh. I kind of have to aggree Richard. Being an ubuntu user, its sad to
> see another debian based distro go down into the annuls of "what can we do
> to get better business"-non-ethics. I think that Carmony should have taken
> better care in his responses. Trying to rationalize it out as impossible
> made him look even bigger of a <insertderagtorycommenthere>
>
> On 9/6/06, *Richard Kolkovich* <sarumont at sigil.org> wrote:
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> On 09/05/06 10:40, KingBahamut blabbered::
> > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060904#freespire
> >
> > from the article
> >
> > "Several readers have emailed us to let us know that Linspire has
> launched
> > what can only be classified as an attempt to tamper with our page hit
> > rankings by trying to artificially inflate the page hit ranking figures
> for
> > its new community distribution - Freespire Upon investigation, it turned
> > out
> > that both linspire.com and nvu.com had been deceivingly redirecting
> > visitors
> > to the Freespire page on DistroWatch and that the default home page of
> > Firefox in the latest build of Freespire had also been set to the same
> > page.
> > As a result, Linspire has become the largest referer of DistroWatch.com
> > this
> > month and the company has been responsible for a considerable number of
> > extra hits on the Freespire page at DistroWatch.
> >
> > Although the redirections continued for several days, the Freespire page
>
> > hit
> > counter was unaffected. As always, excessive and deliberately misleading
> > links to DistroWatch by distributions are considered illegal and a
> script
> > was promptly set up to prevent the counter from incrementing in cases
> where
> > the visitors were referred by linspire.com or nvu.com."
> >
> > Sigh.....bad Linspire...bad......
> >
>
> I think it is a testament to the distro's (lack of) success.  When you
> have to resort to such tactics to make others think your product is
> popular, you are in sad shape.  :-\
>
>
> - --
>
> Richard Kolkovich
> sarumont at sigil.org
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