[ale] Mythtv Build-In

H P Ladds householdwords at gmail.com
Fri Mar 17 12:24:47 EST 2006


"Widespread use of CableCARDs could pretty render TiVo and MythTV boxes
useless as PVRs."

Sorry for the cryptic post (above). Me fat fingers accidentally and
prematurely sent the message.

On 3/16/06, H P Ladds <householdwords at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Widespread use of CableCARDs could pretty render TiVo and MythTV boxes
> useless as PVRs.
>
> On 3/16/06, Cliff Free <brd at alumni.clemson.edu > wrote:
> >
> > I didn't mean to appear confident (sanguine, for the braniacs out
> > there) about the CableCARD thing.  I said "could" just meaning that it's
> > possible.  I, like you, fear that the Cable/Satellite companies will
> > continue to operate with the FUD-driven and influenced attitude they do
> > now.  On a different note, it bewilders me that so many companies have
> > jumped on the DRM bandwagon when, as a security mechanism, it's
> > fundamentally flawed.  I mean, they give an "attacker" the encrypted data
> > AND the key for decrypting it.  That's like day one cryptography stuff...
> > just bad design.
> >
> >
> > On 3/16/06, H P Ladds <householdwords at gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > I sure hope that you are right about the development of a PCI
> > > CableCARD for Linux. I'm much less -- uhm -- sanguine about the prospects.
> > > "Cable/satellite companies" and the Open Source community might not see eye
> > > to eye on the DMR. But wow! if such a card did exist, it would be great.
> > >
> > > http://slashdot.org/articles/05/11/16/205230.shtml
> > >
> > > "The reason that Microsoft is able to get a license for Vista to
> > > support CableCard+DTCP compliant hardware for the PC is because they are
> > > willing to put in the DRM required by the DTLA, a la "Trusted" Computing. No
> > > open-source solution will ever be able to get this license, because the
> > > content companies decree it to be so..."
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 3/16/06, Cliff Free < brd at alumni.clemson.edu > wrote:
> > >
> > > > MythTV would have the ability to be a one-box solution if
> > > > cable/satellite companies would allow PC DVR cards on their network instead
> > > > of limiting things to their proprietary system. (This is something Congress
> > > > and the FCC is fighting against in an effort to create more competition.)
> > > > DRM is really hurting MythTV in this respect, because it's the security FUD
> > > > that keeps the providers in this mind-frame.  The only ability that a
> > > > cable/satellite DVR / DVD / one-box solution has that a mythtv box doesn't
> > > > is the ability to decode the encryption of their signal.  Everything else is
> > > > there in the mythtv box (and more).  You can record to Hard-disk, DVD,
> > > > TRANSCODE to divx, xvid, mpeg4, etc. to save HD space, encode and save
> > > > music, get weather reports, and even browse the web.  All of that being
> > > > said, CableCARD could really help mythTV.  Then, instead of needing
> > > > Comcast's set-top-box, all you need is their card which allows your
> > > > CableCARD compliant hardware to decode their signal.  The drawback is that
> > > > you'd need some sort of CableCARD Reader card for your PC, eating-up yet
> > > > another slot.
> > > >
> > > >  On 3/16/06, Christopher Fowler < cfowler at outpostsentinel.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 09:38 -0400, Cliff Free wrote:
> > > > > > That being said, I'm using Comcast's HD-DVR on the big TV,
> > > > > because
> > > > > > I've been to lazy to set all of this up.
> > > > >
> > > > > But you can record to DVD-R.  To mean having a good working DVR
> > > > > that can
> > > > > get my shows all the time is more important than writing to
> > > > > disk.  I
> > > > > have no DVR but a friend has the Dish version and I've been amazed
> > > > > at
> > > > > how the integration is.  The receiver is the DVR.
> > > > >
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