[ale] Mythtv Build-In

H P Ladds householdwords at gmail.com
Thu Mar 16 23:29:46 EST 2006


Widespread use of CableCARDs could pretty render TiVo and MythTV boxes
useless as PVRs.

On 3/16/06, Cliff Free <brd at alumni.clemson.edu> wrote:
>
> I didn't mean to appear confident (sanguine, for the braniacs out  there)
> about the CableCARD thing.  I said "could" just meaning that it's possible.
> I, like you, fear that the Cable/Satellite companies will continue to
> operate with the FUD-driven and influenced attitude they do now.  On a
> different note, it bewilders me that so many companies have jumped on the
> DRM bandwagon when, as a security mechanism, it's fundamentally flawed.  I
> mean, they give an "attacker" the encrypted data AND the key for decrypting
> it.  That's like day one cryptography stuff... just bad design.
>
>
> On 3/16/06, H P Ladds <householdwords at gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > I sure hope that you are right about the development of a PCI CableCARD
> > for Linux. I'm much less -- uhm -- sanguine about the prospects.
> > "Cable/satellite companies" and the Open Source community might not see eye
> > to eye on the DMR. But wow! if such a card did exist, it would be great.
> >
> > http://slashdot.org/articles/05/11/16/205230.shtml
> >
> > "The reason that Microsoft is able to get a license for Vista to support
> > CableCard+DTCP compliant hardware for the PC is because they are willing to
> > put in the DRM required by the DTLA, a la "Trusted" Computing. No
> > open-source solution will ever be able to get this license, because the
> > content companies decree it to be so..."
> >
> >
> >  On 3/16/06, Cliff Free < brd at alumni.clemson.edu > wrote:
> >
> > > MythTV would have the ability to be a one-box solution if
> > > cable/satellite companies would allow PC DVR cards on their network instead
> > > of limiting things to their proprietary system. (This is something Congress
> > > and the FCC is fighting against in an effort to create more competition.)
> > > DRM is really hurting MythTV in this respect, because it's the security FUD
> > > that keeps the providers in this mind-frame.  The only ability that a
> > > cable/satellite DVR / DVD / one-box solution has that a mythtv box doesn't
> > > is the ability to decode the encryption of their signal.  Everything else is
> > > there in the mythtv box (and more).  You can record to Hard-disk, DVD,
> > > TRANSCODE to divx, xvid, mpeg4, etc. to save HD space, encode and save
> > > music, get weather reports, and even browse the web.  All of that being
> > > said, CableCARD could really help mythTV.  Then, instead of needing
> > > Comcast's set-top-box, all you need is their card which allows your
> > > CableCARD compliant hardware to decode their signal.  The drawback is that
> > > you'd need some sort of CableCARD Reader card for your PC, eating-up yet
> > > another slot.
> > >
> > >  On 3/16/06, Christopher Fowler < cfowler at outpostsentinel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 09:38 -0400, Cliff Free wrote:
> > > > > That being said, I'm using Comcast's HD-DVR on the big TV, because
> > > >
> > > > > I've been to lazy to set all of this up.
> > > >
> > > > But you can record to DVD-R.  To mean having a good working DVR that
> > > > can
> > > > get my shows all the time is more important than writing to disk.  I
> > > > have no DVR but a friend has the Dish version and I've been amazed
> > > > at
> > > > how the integration is.  The receiver is the DVR.
> > > >
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