[ale] OT: Craig Newmark of Craig's List on Net Neutrality

[Geoffrey]

Jim Popovitch wrote:
> eoffrey wrote:
>> Jim Popovitch wrote:
>>> Geoffrey wrote:
>>>> Jim Popovitch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is that FUD?  Where do you see that this is the issue that 
>>>>> broadband providers are concerned with?
>>>> Do you really think they'll stop at simply prompting you to go to
>>>>  another site?  Come on, look at television.  There's not a 
>>>> channel out there that doesn't have pop up commercials during the
>>>>  shows now.  It was bad enough when the commercials interupted
>>>> the shows, now they're running during them.
>>> So, why aren't you advocating a law to restrict TV broadcasters 
>>> from displaying pop-up ads on their content?  I understand that you
>>>  have pet-peeves (lots of them it seems ;-)), but really now,
>>> should everyone of your pet-peeves stimulate a new law (which, btw,
>>>  passing new laws isn't cheap either)?
>> You know what Jim, I'm not going to get into another pissing contest 
>> with you because you seem to enjoy that.
> 
> Oh Geoffrey stop that again, it makes you look petty. You respond to 
> someone's comments, and when they respond back you point a finger and 
> call it a pissing contest.  Nice.

Petty?  Who's the one dropping personal insults with their posts?  Now 
that's petty.  You can't have a discussion without attacking the poster. 
   I'll be glad to have a constructive discussion about the subject, but 
don't go insulting people and throwing words in their mouths.  I never 
once suggested a law regarding TV.  If you read it that way, that's your 
problem.

>> But, I did not once mentioned creating any laws.  The original post 
>> was about a law that was pushed through that would quote: 'allow 
>> internet service providers to play favorites among different web
>  > sites.'  Seems to me, I'm simply arguing against that law.
> 
> You are arguing against a new law in the present case of "Net 
> Neutrality".  But your comments (that I was replying to above) about TV 
> Pop-up ads and TV broadcasters clearly implied that if you didn't do 
> _something_ to stop them the world could run a muck.

How you turn a discussion against a particular law into one promoting 
one is beyond me.  I find it interesting that you trimmed my comment as 
to what I stated my solution to the TV problem is and that was:

'As for television, I simply don't watch it anymore, so the popup ad 
folks don't get my eyes..'

-- 
Until later, Geoffrey

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little
security will deserve neither and lose both.  - Benjamin Franklin