[ale] Slackware v10.2 compile woes

Scott Castaline hscast at charter.net
Mon Oct 24 08:50:15 EDT 2005


J. D. wrote:

> I must agree completely about power supplies.  They are my least 
> favorite component to troubleshoot.  Sometimes they go swiftly and 
> other times it's an incredibly intermittent problem that causes a 
> myriad of misleading symptoms.  Blah.. ;)
>
> J. D.
>
> On 10/23/05, *James P. Kinney III* <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com 
> <mailto:jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>> wrote:
>
>     Ah ,hardware. If I recall, the hard drive choked on that syustem that
>     was running 7.1. I suspect that a reinstall of 7.1 will still not
>     allow
>     compilations. A board level voltage spike caused by a dying power
>     supply
>     can damage RAM in subtle ways while cooking other parts like hard
>     drives.
>
>     It's VERY frustrating to realize that the one component that can kill
>     everything in the system is being produced to lower and lower
>     lifetime
>     expectancy standards. Some of my older equipment is running just fine
>     after 7-8 years of daily use while some of the newer stuff is good for
>     1-2 years tops. Most of the system failures I have seen in the past 3
>     years have been caused by an intermittent power supply issue. Poor
>     quality analog components like capacitors and choke coils are to blame
>     for the vast majority of the crappy power supplies that have broken my
>     and my clients stuff.
>
>     It doesn't help that everyone wants to "save money" so the power
>     supply
>     installed is the smallest capable of just running the box as
>     shipped. So
>     add a DVD burner to that old system and play Russian Roulette with
>     your
>     hard drive. Power supply makers rate their device to the absolute
>     maximum it could possible put out assuming all the components are
>     fully
>     up to spec and the bean counters didn't by a bargain that "fell of
>     the
>     truck". The sad reality is power supplies don't put out what their
>     label
>     says except for a very brief test time.
>
>     So I size up my power supply to provide full power for every device
>     running at maximum and still have at least a 30% overhead before the
>     labeled rating is hit. I would much prefer a 50% overhead but newer
>     systems are already such power hogs I can't get a 2kw internal power
>     supply!
>
>
>     </rant>
>
>     On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 16:42 -0400, Bob Kruger wrote:
>     > James;
>     >
>     > I have pretty much decided that the problem is hardware induced.  I
>     > just pulled the HD with the Slack 10.2 distro in it, put it in
>     another
>     > machine, and I can compile to my heart's content.  The old
>     motherboard
>     > had no problems with Slack 7.1 - it peacefully ran for four years.
>     > But, it will not peacefully coexist with Slack 10.2.  Its time has
>     > come and gone.
>     >
>     > Thanks all who wrote back.
>     >
>     > V/r
>     >
>     > Bob
>     >
>     > James P. Kinney III wrote:
>     > > On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 15:32 -0400, Bob Kruger wrote:
>     > >
>     > > > Christopher;
>     > > >
>     > > > Fair enough.  The three shown here are "segmentation
>     faults"  Here are
>     > > > some snippets.  Firstly, compiling samba  3.0.22b:
>     > > >
>     > >
>     > > I'm not running slack 10.2. Nor have I had compilation issues
>     with the
>     > > slack machines I do have.
>     > >
>     > > However, I have seen seg faults during compiles. 2 were memory
>     faults
>     > > (RAM was bad in ways that only a compiler would find or
>     memtest86) and 2
>     > > were bad applications configures. On one of the bad app
>     configs, I had
>     > > to do a lot more than just ./configure; make; make install.
>     There were a
>     > > bunch of settings I had to tweak.
>     > >
>     > > Samba, MySQL and PHP are monster applications that usually
>     need much
>     > > more than the vanilla ./configure to make correctly.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
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