[ale] request for Linux expert
Daniel Howard
dhhoward at comcast.net
Sun Oct 2 20:31:11 EDT 2005
Is there a Linux expert in Atlanta who could attend a meeting with some
parents and a school technology official and respond to classical
anti-Linux questions for us? We're happy to compensate for time.
Daniel
At 02:25 PM 9/29/2005, you wrote:
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> 1. Re: X Font Server (xfs) problem (Roger Hammons)
> 2. Re: keyboard works in bios/grub but not after boot? (Joe Knapka)
> 3. Installation of SUSE 9.3 advice (Dow Hurst)
> 4. OT: Neat! (Robert L. Harris)
> 5. Re: OT: Neat! (James P. Kinney III)
> 6. Re: OT: Neat! (Randy Ramsdell)
> 7. Re: OT: Neat! (James P. Kinney III)
> 8. Re: OT: Neat! (Michael Still)
> 9. OT:What is this? (Scott Castaline)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:56:52 -0400
>From: Roger Hammons <egorra at attglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [ale] X Font Server (xfs) problem
>To: Michael Trausch <fd0man at gmail.com>, ale at ale.org
>Message-ID: <433AE774.31CEB4A0 at attglobal.net>
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>Mike and All:
>
>That's it! Worked perfectly!
>
>I changed the permissions on /tmp as you suggested,
>re-booted, and found xfs running with ps -ef and an
>".xfont-unix" directory under /tmp. And no "Fatal
>error" message.
>
>Now I wonder if the permissions on the other directories
>under "/" are correct. Most are "drwxr-xr-x" (as was
>"/tmp" before I changed it.) Is Linux great or what?
>
>Anyway, many, many thanks.
>
>Roger
>
>
>On 9/27/05, Roger Hammons <egorra at attglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > 9/27 13:21:40 xfs: xfs startup succeeded
> > 9/27 13:21:40 xfs: Fatal font server error:
> > 9/27 13:21:40 xfs: Cannot establish any listening sockets
> >
>
>
>On 9/27/05, Michael Trausch answered:
>
>Typically, at least in my experiences, /tmp is used for all sorts of
>sockets, and it is okay to dump /tmp between sessions (in fact, I do
>it all the time on my machines, a reboot will kill the whole thing,
>and a reboot happens once every month. (This just prevents me from
>forgetting things are there; I run 'df' fairly freqently, however, I
>tend to put off emptying /tmp, lol, and it can sometimes get quite
>large.)
>
>However, if you've changed /tmp, you may want to ensure that its
>permissions are properly set:
>
> drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 18 2005-09-28 00:57 tmp/
>
>It is slipping my mind at the moment the details behind it, but I do
>seem to recall 1777 as being the proper octal permissions associated
>with the permission string there. I could be wrong on that,
>however... it does mean that it's a "sticky" directory, which
>(slightly) enhances security. Many apps out there will silently fail
>if they can't create a socket that can only be removed by them.
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: 28 Sep 2005 20:32:47 -0600
>From: Joe Knapka <jknapka at kneuro.net>
>Subject: Re: [ale] keyboard works in bios/grub but not after boot?
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>Cc: jknapka at kneuro.net
>Message-ID: <m3achwioxc.fsf at localhost.localdomain>
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>"John Wells" <jb at sourceillustrated.com> writes:
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > Just rebooted my ubuntu box after doing a dist-upgrade last night, and now
> > I no longer have keyboard functionality. The keyboard works fine in the
> > bios and in grub, but as soon as I select a kernel and boot it no longer
> > responds. I first thought it might be related to the upgrade, so I dropped
> > a live ubuntu cd in...same behavior...fine in grub and bios, screwed as
> > soon as it loaded the kernel.
> >
> > Otherwise the box operates fine...I can boot it up and ssh in.
>
>I had a similar problem under Ubuntu. The problem was that the machine
>had a USB keyboard, and I had AT keyboard emulation enabled in the
>BIOS. Linux detected the AT keyboard at boot time, but something
>during the kernel init process disabled the BIOS AT emulation (IIRC),
>and the kernel was left with a nonexistent primary keyboard. When I
>disabled the BIOS AT kbd emulation, Linux detected the USB device as
>the primary keyboard, and all was well.
>
>Cheers,
>
>-- Joe Knapka
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:47:30 -0400
>From: Dow Hurst <Dow.Hurst at mindspring.com>
>Subject: [ale] Installation of SUSE 9.3 advice
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>Message-ID: <433B71E2.9020206 at mindspring.com>
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>Jeff,
>You can actually just use the first CD to get a ftp install from the ALE
>ftp server going. Or choose the minimal install first and then
>configure Yast2 to point to the ALE ftp server for it's sources instead
>of a CD or DVD. If you don't need non-gpl based software and do have
>ACPI issues then the suse 10 RC1 candidate distro is available from
>mirrors off the opensuse.org site. I found my laptop was much better
>understood by the ACPI modules and thereby the kernel when I tried it.
>I think SUSE 10 hits the market around the end of October or early
>November. If your machine is a 64 bit then suse 9.3 runs great and has
>a option during initial booting to install 64 or 32 bit. I think one of
>the function keys switches the mode. The Bitstream fonts (which I like)
>are not installed by default. Also, the DVD or ftp install will make
>some packages available that aren't on the CDs. Another tip, Suse will
>allow user control of interfaces such as wifi and lan. If you have both
>enabled for DHCP and to be initialized at boot then the default route
>gets assigned to the lan and not the wifi. So, don't initialize the lan
>at boot and do initialize the wifi to fix this. Or, go static IP and
>set the default route for at least one of the two. Powersaved is the
>package that runs all the ACPI and powersaving functions. It runs as a
>wrapper accepting all the modules messages and processing events, the
>config files are all under /etc/sysconfig/powersaved. Suse uses the
>/etc/init.d startup scripts sys/V style with symlinks in the rcX.d
>directories. They've got a plan and methodology outlined in the Yast2
>manuals so install the books and help files so you can read up on it.
>You should use the checkconfig command and the insserv command for
>dealing with runlevel at the command line. Yast2 will do users, groups,
>modify runlevels, recover a damaged MBR, configure NFS, and bunch of
>other stuff. There are updated versions of mozilla and other software
>projects, not just security patches, available on the suse ftp server.
>I hope they will continue with this as they transition to the
>opensuse.org staging. You can elect, after you get your installation
>finished, to add nvidia accelerated graphics, all kinds of multimedia
>related stuff, and important Openoffice.org patches in addition to the
>security patching when updating with Yast2 Online Update, called YOU.
>If you don't install the xine stuff via YOU, you can go to
>http://packman.links2linux.org/ and get a bunch of rpms such as
>Mplayer, the dvd decrypt code and so on. There is a nice script that
>will download the decrypt source for you and compile and install it.
>The win32 codecs are there as well. I usually download all that stuff
>into a directory and point Yast2 to that as well as the ftp site in the
>Change Installation Sources Yast2 module. It saves trouble with
>dependencies since you can get into a problem with xine packages
>interfering with your install of other multimedia stuff. Checkinstall
>is available to use for source to rpm convenience in Suse. Also, Bob
>reviewed the Suse firewall scripts for his last book and found they were
>adequate for what they do. I've used them when necessary and the basic
>config script is in /etc/sysconfig as well. There are links on the
>Opensuse site for suse based forums and resources. Autoupdate for YOU
>is available and will auto install typical security patches that don't
>require a confirmation such as the kernel or any patch you've marked
>previously as taboo. One last point, the nvidia driver downloaded by
>YOU is a outdated one now that has some bugs in it. I would download a
>later one, either by hand, or by modifying the fetchnvidia script
>downloaded and used by YOU to do the install. Kernel updates require a
>recompile of the nvidia driver, so I've just used the nvidia native
>installer script to handle that. I've got six 9.3 machines I manage so
>appreciate the Yast2 and YOU stuff. There is a lot of SUSE related help
>for each package in the help files for a package under
>/usr/share/doc/packages. Usually a SUSE.README exists for a package
>with suse specific info, sometimes not. I bet Geoffrey can add advice
>here too! Sorry about this email being a bit of a ramble!
>
>Nedit is missing now from the distro. :-(
>
>I like its spreadsheet like copy and paste in a text processor. Best
>wishes,
>Dow
>
>
>
>
>Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> >John -
> >
> >Bear with me, as I'm not used to the SuSE way of doing things (anymore) -
> >
> >Did you have to download and burn ISOs to CD-R? Is there a way to boot
> >to just one CD and then do the rest from a local NFS/SMB/FTP server or
> >from an Internet source?
> >
> >I've got my wife's laptop running on Gentoo but things like CDs, Wifi,
> >USB, etc. are not managed well (yes, it's because I haven't explicitly
> >*set them up* to be managed well - an acknowledged Gentoo bugaboo) and I
> >wouldn't mind setting her up with a different distro.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >Mills, John M. wrote:
> >
> >
> >>ALErs -
> >>
> >>Having re-sized my WinNT partition dramatically (40->10Gby), I decided to
> >>try Linux installation. I installed SuSe-9.3 from a downloaded CD set ...
> >>
> >>Results were even better than I hoped.
> >>
> >>1) No problem setting up my partitions, including 8GBy as Fat32 for mutual
> >>WinXP and Linux use.
> >>
> >>2) No problem identifying the peripherals in my Fry's house-brand laptop.
> >>
> >>3) X11 delivers a _better_ display than WinXP on the same machine.
> >>
> >>4) SuSe and 'linmodem' correctly identified the low-rent, AC'97 codec-based
> >>~modem, configured it without complaint, and seem to manage it
> perfectly!! I
> >>expected to fight with this, and only gave myself 50-50 odds of _ever_
> >>having it work from Linux!
> >> YIPPEE!
> >>
> >>5) Dual WinXP/Linux boot setup through GRUB dropped in and works fine.
> >>
> >>6) When the partitioning and installation were done I re-tried
> >>SystemRescueCD and it worked fine. (What's life without the occasional
> >>mystery, if it comes out OK at the end?)
> >>
> >>It's my first SuSe installation; I doubt it will be my last. So far, I'm
> >>_definitely_ a happy camper!
> >>
> >>- Mills
> >>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:00:20 -0400
>From: "Robert L. Harris" <Robert.L.Harris at rdlg.net>
>Subject: [ale] OT: Neat!
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>Message-ID: <20050929160018.GL8644 at rdlg.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>
>http://www.pocketmod.com
>
>
>
>:wq!
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>
>DISCLAIMER:
> These are MY OPINIONS "We can't solve problems by using
> ALONE. I speak for the same kind of thinking we used
> no-one else. when we created them."
> - Einstein
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:06:17 -0400
>From: "James P. Kinney III" <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
>Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>Message-ID: <1128009977.16031.452.camel at merlin.localnetsolutions.com>
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>It was the line at the very bottom that said "Patent Pending" that has
>me concerned. A patent for a method of folding paper really, really
>worries me.
>
>On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:00 -0400, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> >
> > http://www.pocketmod.com
> >
> >
> >
> > :wq!
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Robert L. Harris | GPG Key ID: E344DA3B
> >
> > DISCLAIMER:
> > These are MY OPINIONS "We can't solve problems by using
> > ALONE. I speak for the same kind of thinking we used
> > no-one else. when we created them."
> > - Einstein
> >
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>--
>James P. Kinney III \Changing the mobile computing world/
>CEO & Director of Engineering \ one Linux user /
>Local Net Solutions,LLC \ at a time. /
>770-493-8244 \.___________________________./
>http://www.localnetsolutions.com
>
>GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics)
><jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:10:36 -0400
>From: Randy Ramsdell <rramsdell at adelphia.net>
>Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>Message-ID: <1128010236.669.0.camel at rhino.r2.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain
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>On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:06 -0400, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > It was the line at the very bottom that said "Patent Pending" that has
> > me concerned. A patent for a method of folding paper really, really
> > worries me.
>
>
>And the way things are now, they will probably get the patent.
>
>
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:28:06 -0400
>From: "James P. Kinney III" <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
>Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>Message-ID: <1128011286.16031.460.camel at merlin.localnetsolutions.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>I have developed a way to make a ball point pen readily available even
>when I don't have a shirt with a pocket. By using a
>
>
> trade secret removed pending patent grant
>
>
>
>one can easily retrieve the pen with one hand.
>
>
>I also have a business method that bills clients for consulting time in
>a package pricing that
>
>
> trade secret removed pending patent grant
>
>
>
>thereby saving client resources while boosting overall sales gains.
>
>
>
>
>When will it end ?!?!?!?!?!
>
>On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:10 -0400, Randy Ramsdell wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 12:06 -0400, James P. Kinney III wrote:
> > > It was the line at the very bottom that said "Patent Pending" that has
> > > me concerned. A patent for a method of folding paper really, really
> > > worries me.
> >
> >
> > And the way things are now, they will probably get the patent.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>--
>James P. Kinney III \Changing the mobile computing world/
>CEO & Director of Engineering \ one Linux user /
>Local Net Solutions,LLC \ at a time. /
>770-493-8244 \.___________________________./
>http://www.localnetsolutions.com
>
>GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics)
><jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
>Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7
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>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:47:57 -0400
>From: Michael Still <stillwaxin at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Neat!
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>Message-ID: <12bbc01c05092909475e3a01a5 at mail.gmail.com>
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>On 9/29/05, Robert L. Harris <Robert.L.Harris at rdlg.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://www.pocketmod.com
> >
> >
>Reminds me of the hipster:
>http://www.43folders.com/2004/09/introducing_the.html
>
>
>--
>[stillwaxin at gmail.com ~]$ cat .signature
>cat: .signature: No such file or directory
>[stillwaxin at gmail.com ~]$
>
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:25:35 -0400
>From: Scott Castaline <hscast at charter.net>
>Subject: [ale] OT:What is this?
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>Message-ID: <433C319F.3070509 at charter.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>I received this e-mail (see attachment) this past Tues. There is a link
>to web site that appears to be Arabic. Anyone know what this is, does
>not appear to be avirus or trojan at least for Linux.....
>
>Scott Castaline
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