[ale] nmap and REJECT rules

Christopher Fowler cfowler at outpostsentinel.com
Mon May 9 13:06:05 EDT 2005


I assumed REJECT was the same as if there was nothing listening on that
port.

On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 11:58, James Baldwin wrote:
> On May 9, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Rickman wrote:
> 
> 
> > DROP is better for keeping your ruleset hidden, but REJECT is better
> > for ridding yourself of broken clients, dhcp related drag connections,
> > and other bandwidth sucking nonsense. DROP is the proper choice in
> > 99.9% of situations.
> >
> 
> I'd recommend rejecting with TCP RST and ICMP port unreachable when  
> possible. Adhering to RFC 793 does not increase your risk  
> significantly and, as you stated, can properly aid in "ridding  
> yourself of broken clients".
> 
> The risk associated with this is that a port scan can sweep your  
> ports that much quicker as you are actively replying and informing  
> the scanner that the ports are not accepting traffic rather than  
> waiting for it to timeout. Even taking this into account, I recommend  
> reseting the connections properly. An attacker who is specifically  
> targeting your system will locate the services you are offering  
> regardless of DROP. An automated attacker will not care that he's  
> increased your scanning time.
> 
> If I recall correctly, even set on low sneaky settings, nmap will  
> only scan a small number of ports concurrently. Setting DROP causes  
> these scans to take a much longer time, sometimes spanning days if  
> they scan the full range of available ports. If one were to, instead,  
> REJECT this would happen much quicker. This would allow you to  
> quickly alarm or dynamically respond to a scanning host without  
> keeping state on as many concurrent connections. For instance, you  
> could quickly dynamically update your rules and REJECT or DROP all  
> connections from a specific host which incurs too many TCP RST/ICMP  
> unreachables.
> 
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