[ale]

Yu, Jerry Jerry.Yu at Voicecom.com
Thu Feb 10 13:09:26 EST 2005


-------------------- for Michael H. only -----------------Others: please
kindly click to DELETE---
Michael,

I  sent you a private email earlier today. Did u get it?   I assume that my
email (jerry.yu at voicecom.com) is not on your white list.

jerry

# -----Original Message-----
# From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On 
# Behalf Of Michael Hirsch
# Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:43 PM
# To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
# Subject: Re: [ale] Webcrawlers can harvest ALE Archive E-mail 
# Addresses
# 
# 
# On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:51:26 -0500, Jim Popovitch 
# <jimpop at yahoo.com> wrote:
# > On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 12:59 +0000, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
# > > Poppycock. There are plenty of mailing list archives out there
# > > that make /some/ effort to prevent harvesting of the 
# email addresses.
# > > Most of them do something as simple as changing email addresses
# > > found to (greg "at" turnstep.com) or something similar.
# > 
# > Ahhh, the signs of newbieness in spring.  ;-)
# > 
# > Dude, things that can be obfuscated can also be 
# un-obfuscated.  Again,
# > there is NOTHING (short of elimination) that you can do to 
# prevent an
# > email address, on a public archive, from being harvested.
# 
# Clearly what you say is true, but is it really relevant.  The issue
# isn't whether it _can_ he unobfuscated and harvested, but whether it
# _will_ be.  Just like it isn't whether a piece of spam can be
# filtered, but whether it will be that matters.
# 
# My understanding is that email addresses are so easy to harvest right
# now, that few harvesters bother trying to unobfuscate the email
# addresses.  I suspect that even something as stupid as replacing all
# '@'  symbols with ' AT ' in the archives would significantly reduce my
# spam.  Doing funky stuff with hex codes might work even better.   
# Spammers know that using strange spellings and characters can fool
# many filters.  Similarly, I bet the same tricks would fool many
# spammers.
# 
# --Michael
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