[ale] need working dialup

Mark Wright mpwright at speedfactory.net
Mon Dec 20 12:18:26 EST 2004 


Well, I am using nsummerour but I have tried eln/nsummerour, 
ELN/nsummerour and nsummerour at earthlink.net.


On Dec 20, 2004, at 11:26 AM, Mike Terzo wrote:

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> Mark Wright wrote:
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>> I am not up yet.  I am running out of time and options though.  I 
>> wanted to get this box working for my mom before Christmas.
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>> Since you seem to know a bit more about this let me throw some more 
>> information at you.
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>> I am trying to connect two ways.  First using the network settings 
>> panel on Ubuntu's Gnome desktop I followed an excellent write up by 
>> someone on the Ubuntu web site using pppconfig but still had no 
>> success.  This dialer uses wvdial.
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>> After beating my head against this for a few days I found another 
>> great write up by W.G. Unruh. (nothing to do with Ubuntu)  and I am 
>> using a terminal window to run the show with the following command.
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>> /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 57600 debug connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v  ' ' 
>> ATZ OK ATDT6782454201 CONNECT '\d\c'"
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>> I under stand most of this (because Unruh explains it).  The notable 
>> part is the use of chat instead of wvdial.  In his instructions he 
>> points out that by watching var/log/ppp I can learn how to modify 
>> this long command to successfully connect.  This command does not 
>> contain any UID or pwd information but it connects just as far and 
>> fails just like the wvdial through the network panel.  The network 
>> panel has the account info in it.  (User and pwd)  I have been 
>> assuming that none of the earthlink account data was getting passed 
>> at this point.
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>> Right now since everyone I have talked to has had dial up working in 
>> the past (with older distros) I am thinking about installing mandrake 
>> 9.2 or earlier to see if there is something to do with the 2.6 kernel 
>> that doesn't like Earthlink or US Robotics 56 modems.  I did like 
>> Ubuntu's minimal gnome gui.  My mom is using an old Mac and I think 
>> the gnome/Ubuntu look is Mac like and pretty.
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>> Oh well.  Any advise or comments warmly welcomed.
>>
>> Mark
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>> On Dec 19, 2004, at 9:32 PM, Dow Hurst wrote:
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>>> I meant that you authenticate in the chat script and not during PPP 
>>> negotiation.  Arrrghh!!!  Bad thought process and worse typing 
>>> here...
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>>> In DSL you authenticate during PPP setup and after LCP completes.  
>>> In dialup you connect, authenticate in the chat script, then 
>>> autostart PPP, or look for a tilde in the next few frames of data 
>>> from the server to "see" that it is trying to start PPP.
>>>
>>> I've used the above method with wvdial and the full email address 
>>> for earthlink/mindspring for years.
>>> Dow
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>>> Dow Hurst wrote:
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>>>> Did you get it going?  LCP failure is before authentication on DSL 
>>>> but not on dialup since your chat script ought to authenticate you, 
>>>> IIRC.  For Earthlink you have to have your primary email address 
>>>> for the account as the login and the password as the password for 
>>>> that primary email account.   I don't see your login and password 
>>>> expect send pairs.  So your connected but not authenticated  so PPP 
>>>> is ignored at this point.  At least for earthlink, I would connect, 
>>>> authenticate, and the just start PPP on my own and forget waiting 
>>>> for the server to start PPP.  wvdial does a good job of this.  
>>>> Also, you can demand dial in this situation.
>>>> Dow
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>>>> Mark Wright wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am exasperated. (ooh I even spelled it right)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been trying for three months in my spare time to set up a 
>>>>> nice little Linux box for my mom.  She badly needs a replacement 
>>>>> for here Apple IIsi.  She is on dial up.  I am a computer 
>>>>> professional.  Whatever that means.  I have been repairing 
>>>>> Mainframes since 85.  I used dial up back when every modem command 
>>>>> and network option had to be entered by hand on whatever tty 
>>>>> device we were lucky enough to have.  So why can't I get a Linux 
>>>>> distro to connect to Earthlink?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried FC2, Mandrake 9.2, and 10.0, Knoppix 2.0, Linspire 
>>>>> 4.5, and Ubuntu.  I have two identical US robotics 56K modems that 
>>>>> work fine on any machine.  One of them was working on an OS2 box 
>>>>> only a few months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> FC2 had a strange issue with the modem that I corrected via a tip 
>>>>> I found online.  All the others auto sense the modem and dial it 
>>>>> correctly without help.  I get to the same place with al the 
>>>>> different distos.
>>>>>
>>>>> From /var/log/message on Ubuntu:
>>>>>
>>>>> chat [24230]: send (ATST6782454201)
>>>>> chat [24230]:  expect (connect)
>>>>> chat [24230]:  ^M
>>>>> chat [24230]:  CONNECT
>>>>> chat [24230]:  - - got it
>>>>> chat [24230]:  send  (/d)
>>>>> pppd [24227]:  Serial connection established
>>>>> pppd [24227]:  Using interface ppp0
>>>>> pppd [24227]:  Connect :  ppp0  <--> /dev/ttyS0
>>>>> pppd [24227]:  LCP:  timeout sending config-Requests
>>>>> pppd [24227]:  Connection terminated
>>>>> pppd [24227]:  Hangup  (SIGHUP)
>>>>> pppd [24227]:  Exit .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have printed a three inch notebook full of HOW-TO's from the 
>>>>> internet.  I have followed many rabbit trails.  I have read ppp 
>>>>> set up instructions from 1996 but I have no answers.  I have tried 
>>>>> to set up my Speedfactory account with a local dial up number to 
>>>>> verify that it is not Earhtlink being funny.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is any one using a Linux machine with a modem.   I am willing to 
>>>>> buy an internal or another external or really anything that will 
>>>>> make it work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have looked at every file associated with communication for 
>>>>> config and privileges but will gladly go over anything again.  If 
>>>>> you have a working configuration I would love to compare.  Sorry 
>>>>> this is so long but I am only scratching the surface.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Wright
>>>>>
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