[ale] Mixing GPL&proprietary, was Re: Weekend laugh - m$

James P. Kinney III jkinney at localnetsolutions.com
Sat May 3 16:38:13 EDT 2003


My reading on this issue with RedHat was the corporate image issue.
RedHat releases a product that is freely available for anyone to get.
However, unless a person is authorized by RedHat to distribute stuff
with RedHat's logo and name, the logo and name may not be used in any
redistributed form. At issue here is that companies may not sell
products that have RedHats name and logo. Specifically, cheapbytes and
other repressers of distributions are not allowed to exactly duplicate
the iso's as that violates RedHat's copyrights.

One is, however, perfectly free to replace all redhat logos and images
and names with others reflecting the distributor in a downloaded copy,
press/burn CD's and sell them at will.

On Sat, 2003-05-03 at 14:54, Transam wrote:
> On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 01:02:04PM -0400, tfreeman at intel.digichem.net wrote:
> > On Fri, 2 May 2003, Jonathan Rickman wrote:
> 
> 
> > > This brings an interesting question to light...
> 
> > > If Microsoft started stealing GPL'ed code and including it in Windows (a
> > > few pieces at a time), effectively creating their own distro and violating
> > > the GPL...how would we know? We can't review the source, and MD5 sigs and
> > > the like would be circumstantial evidence at best. Barring a court order,
> > > how do we *really* know that this isn't happening already?
> 
> Red Hat now asserts that companies may NOT redistribute their distribution
> of Linux and that to do so is illegal.  To be precise, they assert that
> anyone doing this commercially must remove display of their graphic logos
> and mention of "Red Hat" or be guilty of trademark infringement.  Their
> statement is buried deep within their web site (I dunno know where).
> 
> Can anyone speak with authority regarding this?
> 
> > Sorry I'm not going to take up the challenge. However, this is a special 
> > case of a more general problem - how can you tell a given computer code 
> > object is free from various IP encombrences(sp?)? If that question isn't 
> > challenging enough, improve it by requiring low cost 8-).
> 
> > > Any takers?
> 
> Sure.  You can't.  If you goof you can get sued out of existance.
> 
> > > --
> > > Jonathan Rickman
> > > X Corps Security
> > > http://www.xcorps.net
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