[ale] couple questions

David Bronson dbron at roman.net
Sun Mar 16 21:23:00 EST 2003


I agree with the bad neighbor principal, but when you are the landlord
who is really to blame?

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On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 08:50:57PM -0500, bieb wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "James P. Kinney III" <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
> To: Atlanta Linux "User Group (E-mail)" <ale at ale.org>
> Date: 16 Mar 2003 20:42:05 -0500 
> Subject: Re: Re: [ale] couple questions
> 
> This underscores the major fault with RBL's in general. As a spammer has
> used multiple address within the same network as ALE, the entire network
> get RBL'ed. This is expected as the spammers move around. Yet it is
> completely contrary to the general principles in the US (innocent until
> proven guilty).
> 
> It is due entirely to this by-product of RBL's that I can't use or
> recommend them.  I would rather see 100 extra notices of barely legal
> teens, ways to help Nigeria with it's cash flow problems, and herbal
> viagra than lose a single piece of legitimate email due to huge
> fallibility of RBL's.
> 
> Turn off RBL checks and rely on better heuristics from spamassassin.
> 
> On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 20:28, bieb wrote:
> > Chris, The reason I am not getting mail is because ale.org has been RBL'ed. This to me is a big problem, many of the members of ALE are Sys Admins that are responsible for mail servers. Many are implementing different ways to kill spam, but if the group we are a member of is RBL'ed, then we can't receive its mail. 
> > 
> > Here is a link to specific instances that have landed ale.org on the
> > spews rbl:
> > http://openrbl.org/ip/66/163/243/242.htm
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Fowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com>
> > To: ale at ale.org
> > Date: 16 Mar 2003 09:24:42 -0500 
> > Subject: Re: [ale] couple questions
> > 
> > 
> > I've seen this happen.  Sometimes it could be almost 6hours that I do
> > not receive any ale mail.  Then bam! I get a pile of them from that 6
> > hour period.  
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 21:48, bieb wrote:
> > > In my other email account I haven't received mail since Thursday 3/16. I know there has been mail since then. My questions are: 
> > > 1. Is there an archive of the mail??
> > > 2. Has ale.org been RBL'ed???
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Harold
> > >
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