[ale] How was the NW meeting last night?

[Geoffrey]

Dow Hurst wrote:
> Matthew Macumber gave a very good talk explaining Gentoo.  The benefits 
> over other distros were pointed out plus the caveats.

Thanks to Matthew for stepping up and providing the presentation.  I was 
unable to make the meeting as I was sitting in the rain at a delayed 
swim meet for my daughter.

> I really like good hardware support in the kernel and also like having 
> the latest software.  That has been my main reason for using SuSE. 
> Secondary was having lot's of sysadmin taken care of by SuSE and not 
> me.

Agreed.  That's one primary reason I didn't stick long with Gentoo.  It 
took so bloody long to get installed to start with.  Then again, I was 
installing on a p166... :(  Reminded my of my first Linux installs in 
the mid 90's.

> Gentoo's offering of so many possible kernels, plus the absolute 
> latest software and patches continually updated weekly is really 
> appealing to me.

Agreed, and really sounds like a great solution for a firewall, except 
for the fact, that most folks building firewalls on Linux make use of 
low end hardware, again bringing up the problems with the install time 
issues.

> I can probably enjoy working my way thru the sysadmin 
> setup of the configuration files to tweak the system like I want it.  I 
> think at heart I've wanted a Debian like system and Gentoo fits the 
> bill.  I plan to build my system around Gentoo and post on the list how 
> it goes.  SuSE 8.2 comes with OO 1.02 and to add OO 1.03.1 to it is a 
> major pain unless you just ignore the OO 1.02 and install OO 1.03.1 in 
> /usr/local.  I am tired of that!

I'd like to hear more about the OO issue.  Is this because SuSE doesn't 
have an upgrade path to 1.03.1?  I would think you could remove 1.0.2 
and then install 1.03.1?

> 
> I will soon trade up from a SGI O2 to a Dell Linux workstation running 
> protein modelling programs at work.  I'll be going from a MIPs R5000 at 
> 200MHz to a Intel P4 at 2.08GHz.  My OpenGL speeds will increase by two 
> orders of magnitude by moving from SGI CRM graphics to the Nvidia FX1000 
> graphics.  So, that is about 7-9 years of graphics engine development 
> time too, since the O2's graphics went on the market about 1996.

Now that sounds sweet. :)  When I get rich (chuckle), I would like to 
devote a relatively recent piece of hardware to a true Gentoo effort.  I 
wasn't really abel to do it justice on the p166.  Unfortunately, since 
my top speed boxes are what I'm now trying to make a living on, I'm a 
bit more particular about what I install.

> 
> Just rambling but I did enjoy the meeting.  It was the shortest meeting 
> we've had ending about 9:15pm and everyone was gone by 10pm!  I actually 
> got home before midnight!

Sounds like a good meeting.  Again, I want to thank Matthew for his time 
and effort.  I did not get home before midnight, since the rain did 
eventually stop and they finished the whole swim meet...

-- 
Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net

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Think about it...

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