[ale] Kernel and hardware woes

Jeff Hubbs hbbs at attbi.com
Sat Jan 4 23:36:46 EST 2003


And make sure that the backing paper was removed from the heatsink's
thermal tape before installation!!!  That happened to me once with a
machine a client brought in - one that would not stay running long
enough for an NT install.

- Jeff

On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 16:44, John Wells wrote:
> Make sure you have thermal paste or pad in place.  Is the heatsink you're
> using spec'd to handle this processor?
> 
> John
> 
> J.M. Taylor said:
> > (john, sorry, meant to send this to the ale list)
> >
> > Sounds like mine is running at least 40 degrees too hot...its run that
> > hot since I installed it, afaik.  It's always run over 150 F.
> >
> > So maybe a bad CPU from from the beginning?
> >
> > Off to the Mighty Chain Stores to see if I can solve the problem.
> >
> > Thanks again, guys, I have learned a tremendous amount from this little
> > venture.
> >
> > Jenn
> >
> > John Wells said:
> >> 172 degrees farenheit?!?!?  That's like 78 degress celcius!
> >>
> >> Damn...that's pretty up there.  In fact, that's on the threshold of
> >> the temp at which AMD says your CPU will die.
> >>
> >> How long has it been running that hot?  To give you an idea, my
> >> machine's CPU (Athlon XP 2200+) hovers between 42 and 47 degrees
> >> celcius, or 107-116 degrees farenheit.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> J.M. Taylor said:
> >>> James, John, Jonathan, Ryan, Greg, Jeff, et al:
> >>>
> >>> James, thanks for the lesson in physics, I think a thorough
> >>> understanding of these things would help me flail around less when
> >>> debugging hardware vs software issues.  Are you sh***ng me about
> >>> cosmic rays? ;)  I *do* have a large, dragon shaped hole bored into
> >>> the side of my machine, but that was done long ago and I think a more
> >>> mundane motherboard-is-crap explanation is going to be my key.
> >>>
> >>> So. I can't test my memory in another box because this is the only
> >>> machine in the house that accepts DDR.  The hard drives are fine, the
> >>> IDE
> >>> controllers appear to be fine. I have booted with a rescue disk and
> >>> still get the kernel panics, fsck almost invariably produces the
> >>> "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address
> >>> 00000004" error, followed by all the output that I posted earlier. As
> >>> I said before, it's not just fsck, but that triggers it every time.
> >>>
> >>> So if I understand correctly, I'm down to either: CPU is bad, chipset
> >>> is bad, motherboard in general is bad, or RAM is bad.
> >>>
> >>> My CPU runs REALLY hot. Really, really hot.  Hotter than I expected.
> >>> Avg temp is 172 degrees F.  This is an AMD athlon 1.4Ghz, cooled by a
> >>> ThermalTake somethingorother 4400rpm CPU fan.  Avg system temp is 99
> >>> degrees F.  I don't actually know what's normal for these type
> >>> processors.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for all the input.  It is very much appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Jenn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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